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kingsknight
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Round the world on a bike! Reply with quote

Iv just finishing the long way round and the long way down and i was just thinking that i would not pick one of them bmw's they used as they kept braking!

Id love to try it on my XR! I think i would go for a Honda if i had the chance to do it. Id trust my old CG to get me around the world without braking down lol.

what bikes would you lot use?
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triumph Tiger... one of the old 900's!!! So ugly it'll stop the rogue bandits (no pun intended) from killing you for it!
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Round the world on a bike! Reply with quote

They wouldn't have chosen them either, if BMW hadn't offered a big chunk of money, I believe Smile.

A KTM990 or BMW F800GS would be interesting possibilities if you wanted high-speed or to be able to take quite large amounts of stuff.
Otherwise I'd choose a Husky TE610, KTM690 or BMW G650, presuming some moderate dirt-fun was to be included, but you still wanted to get from A to B moderately quickly.
I wouldn't want to do serious dirt stuff on this too much (have managed some moderately paced greenlaning, but the cut-off-your-head properties of the screen worries me), but a mk2 fairing will be along at some point!
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If it was the sort of thing a GSA would be fine doing, I'd probably just take whatever road bike tickled my fancy at the time.-
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I am sort of going RTW in a month (undecided on the South America bit depends on how much $ I have left by the time I get to Mongolia).

I'm taking an Xt600E,

Why?

Its simple very very simple and can be fixed at the side of the road easy.

Subframe is strong enough to take luggage , DR350 isn't.

Enough balance of power to not stress the engine like I probably would on a DR350.

Has 8.5:1 compression so can run on terrible fuel in mongolia (KTM640s and 990s as well as BMWs have a switch to retard the ignition to run lower octane fuel).

With some simple mods wet it can be gotten down to 162kilos , mine weighs this much with a full 24 litre tank of petrol.

If I do really break it , it won't hurt massively (like a 10K BMW) to abandon it.

Can be easily retrofitted with a kicker (looking into this monday).

It is mostly made from steel , steel welders can be found anywhere , alloy ones (ie Husquavana TE610 which is made from alloy bits and frame) cannot.

It is the son of the XT6003AJ tenere which has heritage of utter indestructability , as some people say it is like a royal enfield bullet but super reliable.

Its aircooled , ie less to worry about.

It is the recommended bike of the HUBB and thus is proven and tested many many times along with David Lambeth's super super high mileage one.

It can run with some pretty severe engine damage , an numpty rode half way across Russia with barely any oil in it and managed to make it even though the crank case was cracked and the valves were all damaged.

I can flat foot it , as its an odd trail bike in that its quite low.




KTMs are just too fragile , they seem like the perfect package , low weight , big tank , kicker + electric, but bearings in the engine fall apart , Motosyberia's earlier trip to Mongolia had a KTM die on them. Though their moto Africa trip also had problems with the TT600R (but that was because they ran them without oil and used bikes that had been stood for 4 years).
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Round the world on a bike! Reply with quote

kingsknight wrote:
Iv just finishing the long way round and the long way down and i was just thinking that i would not pick one of them bmw's they used as they kept braking!

Id love to try it on my XR! I think i would go for a Honda if i had the chance to do it. Id trust my old CG to get me around the world without braking down lol.

what bikes would you lot use?


You can go on anything. There's a video on youtube of a guy doing it on a 98 R1.(seriously)
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think i would go for the honda varadero 1000 but the XR is a lot more simple to work on if it went wrong. you could pretty much carry a spare engine with you lol

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PostPosted: 20:47 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Round the world on a bike! Reply with quote

kingsknight wrote:
i would not pick one of them bmw's they used as they kept braking!


Well without brakes a crash is inevitable.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Round the world on a bike! Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:


You can go on anything. There's a video on youtube of a guy doing it on a 98 R1.(seriously)



https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=815037540

Sjaak Lucassen (this video has the BG music unlike the tube).

He is nuts though.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall see with my KTM. Hopefully the significantly smoother 690 engine will be good.
Saying that, people have done really big milages on the old 640 adventures too. Seen some pretty big trips one on EXCs too, for that matter!

I like low weight as any adventurous plans I'd have would include some moderate off-road routes. On that, that's a nice weight with a full big tank of fuel!
Do like on the KTM that it managed 108 two-up well laden with a pillion, but also has suspension that can handle a hare and hounds, etc.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

would be hard work going on a 125 tho! try doing it on a NSR or RS haha
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Round the world on a bike! Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
You can go on anything. There's a video on youtube of a guy doing it on a 98 R1.(seriously)


https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=815037540
Sjaak Lucassen (this video has the BG music unlike the tube).
He is nuts though.


Another person to do it on an R1 is of course Nick Sanders.

Parallel World is a good watch/read
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Round the world on a bike! Reply with quote

LankyPaddy wrote:

Another person to do it on an R1 is of course Nick Sanders.

Parallel World is a good watch/read


Nick Sanders was a much shorter route though , in that his trip was 19000KM , while Sajaak's trip was nearly 40000KM , also Nick Sanders stopped the clock each time he got off the bike so some of his records are not recognised by the GBoR.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingsknight wrote:
would be hard work going on a 125 tho! try doing it on a NSR or RS haha

Why's that? You'd have to change gear a bit more, but your left foot soon gets used to it Smile.
Would have to keep a decent supply of 2 stroke too, but I found my NSR was pretty frugal on 2 stroke use, so shouldn't be a massive issue.
Simple engines that are easy to repair and at least in the NSR's case, pretty reliable.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah but it wouldnt be very good off road! Smile im thinking about doing a trip round the uk on my XR! r
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingsknight wrote:
yeah but it wouldnt be very good off road! Smile im thinking about doing a trip round the uk on my XR! r


Thats not true though in that people in poor countries ride small capacity bikes all over the place, and they manage ok in such places
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingsknight wrote:
yeah but it wouldnt be very good off road! Smile im thinking about doing a trip round the uk on my XR! r

Why not? It's got a low slung exhaust, but if you avoid going over anything too silly, you should be fine.
Doesn't really matter if the exhaust gets a few dents in it, anyway Razz.

Incidentally, the CRM trail bike I've got uses the NSR engine.


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PostPosted: 21:55 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah but they are not traveling 25k on them!!
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old man is doing it next year on a KLR650. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the bike is very much up the person and how they want their trip to be. If you want some fun off-roading and be able to drop it (and pick it up easily), a light-weight small engined bike would be good. However you are then often forced stuck with smaller serving and when it comes to mile munching on the tarmac yo can't advance as much.

Also look at the cheapness side... if you want to fix it easy then you want a simple bike, a new modern one might not be so good because you would need specific parts to fix it.

I'd recommend reading Mondo Enduro Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole long way round/down choosing a BMW is because they originally went to KTM and said, give us free bikes, we go round the world and you get a huge free advert. KTM said no. They went to BMW and they said yes.

KTM probably said no because they didn't think their bikes would make it round the world and didn't want any negative publicity.

I think even though the BMW's did break down a few times, they were after all, going around the world!
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for an F650 myself :p
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally, I also think it was down to some guy who had done it before telling KTM that he didn't think they would make it round. And KTM didn't think they would either.

Could have been mistaken it was a long time ago since I watched the DVD

I imagine KTM are quietly kicking themselves though.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

allymoss wrote:
The whole long way round/down choosing a BMW is because they originally went to KTM and said, give us free bikes, we go round the world and you get a huge free advert. KTM said no. They went to BMW and they said yes.

The way I heard it, KTM said 'yes' and all was good. Then BMW waved a big bundle of cash under their noses which KTM wouldn't/couldn't match at that point, so they went to BMW.

However, do remember that they didn't make it around the world on their bikes; a chunk was done in the back of a lorry where their research hadn't prepared them for their conditions.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think even though the BMW's did break down a few times, they were after all, going around the world!


They apparently avoided the zilov gap via unknown means ,in that there are three options ride it , like Kevin Maher , terra Circa and a few others , take the train or to airlift over it. This is a 2000km section , so they didn't do that either.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do ppl think of Emilio Scotto ?

I just started his The Longest Ride.

And gave up within 30 pages.

He seems to be as much of a fantasist as a biker.

It's like an Indiana Jones tale. "I was riding my bike, and out of nowhere spring these 7 foot creatures, I avoided their swiping claws and opened the throttle. And then the head shrinkers prompted me to pull up to the left!"
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