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tutton
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Are CBR125's as shocking as the rep puts up? Reply with quote

Well i sold the knackered 50 about a month ago
and ive been without a working bike now for around 4 months and its taking a toll on the old social, and commuting on a train is just wrong. Laughing

Found a lil CBR125, going for around the grand mark, looks pretty straight.

Before the jibes of should do your A2, well if i could find a test date anywhere this side of the world i would have done so, but as i cant and i need transport here i am asking what these little bikes are like?

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PostPosted: 22:48 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slow, but reliable. What else is there to say?
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats max size of rider that would be comfortable on one you rekon?

I heard around 70mph is around the top speed which is good enuff for the uses i need, just commuting a bit of fun and town riding really.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
Whats max size of rider that would be comfortable on one you rekon?

I heard around 70mph is around the top speed which is good enuff for the uses i need, just commuting a bit of fun and town riding really.


Well Jay12329 rode Cassy's old one, and he managed OK. He did look like an ape riding a mini moto but still, it worked. I think he's about six foot in height.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6' and rode one for about 6 months before I did my DAS. Mine was a solid reliable commuter and was comfy enough. Top speed is more like 60mph unless you live in Norfolk where the lack of hills may give you a long enough run up to get to 70 odd. I found it a bit unnerving when I would get to a hill on the motorway and the speed would drop to 50.

If I had to get another 125 I'd probably go for something like a CG or even a Van Van.
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They arent a bad bike at all.

Its the fact they are trying to be something they are not which puts them to shame.


CB125R would of been a better name for it. Its more of a glorified CG125 rather than a CBR.




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PostPosted: 23:24 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Varadero would do 70mph+ happily, and I think they have the same engines as the CBR125..
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

60mph is a bit of a put down! You could slip stream and pass one on a CG125 if that were the case! The 08 F.I version of the CBR was tested at 73mph at Bruntingthorpe, and 0-60mph in 16.5sec. It just about makes 12bhp at the back wheel. For a budget sporty 125 4T it's not that bad an effort really! Remember that The Aprilia RS125 is now a dead duck in performance terms, as meeting the latest emissions regs has left it with 18.5bhp and barely able to reach 85mph.

The CBR does seem to be around 10mph faster than the old CG in every situation, and for a low cost and cheap to run 125 that is enough of an improvement IMO!
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would imagine the tyres are pretty cheap too
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legsy. wrote:
My Varadero would do 70mph+ happily, and I think they have the same engines as the CBR125..


The CBR is a 6 speed single, whereas the Varadero is a 5 speed V-Twin.
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Legsy. wrote:
My Varadero would do 70mph+ happily, and I think they have the same engines as the CBR125..


The CBR is a 6 speed single, whereas the Varadero is a 5 speed V-Twin.



See? Exactly the same.

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PostPosted: 09:25 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one. Basically it gets the job done and that's it Laughing I prefer the riding position on the CBR over the CG but that's personal preference. There aren't any problems that I can think of mechanical wise, I didn't like mine at first but now it's kinda grown on me Laughing so much so that I've ended up buying extra bits for it!
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Are CBR125's as shocking as the rep puts up? Reply with quote

While I was 'against' them to start with, with prices under a grand (as I said initially) they make a more sensible 'commuter' choice. I think I'd still go for an NSR or similar personally (as I used when I had to commute half an hour each way a day), but the CBR shouldn't be too bad and will be a bit cheaper on fuel probably.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CBR 125 R...
I have had long ride on one (after jumping off a SV650) and for a 125 it ain't bad.

Honda don't make a bike down to a price. The engine is very smooth (its got balancers), the bike picks up speed quickly (for a 125), out in the NSL you can keep up with traffic (60-65 without effort), the gear ratios are sensible, its comfortable. echonomical, hardy, Light and easy to ride.

It is a better bike than the CG125 as it has a few more refinements (liquid cooled, decent disc breaks, etc).

BUT what it is NOT is a sports bike. The Aprilia RS125, Yam R125 and Honda NSR125 are proper mini-sports bikes. The CBR125R is not in the same league, despite trying oh-so-hard to look the part.

Its more in line with the old CBR600 F than Honda's sports CBR600 R (so I shall call it CBR125F).
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasnt expecting a good structured review from the bcf massiv'

I dont want silly fast, i want transport, with reliablity,
Lets be honest my last bike realisticaly did 45-50mph, so even this is an improvement. and as im spending around 6 quid for a return ticket to college, im pretty sure the cbr would do that easily.

And for around 1k in price for a 05 plate it cant be all that bad, i might even keep it for a while if i can get me A2 done.
Uturn cant be that hard on one, surely Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:

I dont want silly fast, i want transport, with reliablity,

A turbo-charged ZX10 might be considered 'silly fast', an NSR is not considered so Smile.
Despite what Goat-boy suggests, even now traffic on NSL dual carriageways can often be averaging 80mph or so. The CBR you'll be holding on full-revs, while an NSR or similar will feel a bit more comfortable doing that speed.

If you don't have any dual carriageways in your regular rides, it's less of an issue.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean in the terms of a 125,
Although the faster 125's have reliablity issues, being honest i dont want to be having to strip it down and do top end rebuilds then be really nimble with the revs.

Plus the closest NSR to me is 217 miles away up in liverpool, while the cbr im looking at is within 50 miles Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's one in the garage at work right now. It's TINY, bear that in mind. I find fully faired (in race livery) 125s cute... sort of the chav Nova of the bike world. You'll fool everyone until they notice the L plates Wink

I prefer the look of the Varadero myself.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well im about 5ft8 maybe 5ft7,
I remember sitting on a 08 in the showroom at christmas, felt like the screen was a bit low, but felt alrite, almost like its so small you could flick it around alot?
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
being honest i dont want to be having to strip it down and do top end rebuilds then be really nimble with the revs.

Top end rebuilds are very simple. While I didn't actually replace stuff, I've had my CRM125 (same NSR engine) apart and back together again. Took maybe 20 minutes to put it back together, not rushing. Only need to be done every 10,000 miles or so. I'm not convinced they need much running in - and you're even then only talking riding at the same pace as flat out on the 4 stroke Smile.

If anything else does go wrong with the engine, the more complicated 4 strokes are also much worse to repair.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
Well im about 5ft8 maybe 5ft7,
I remember sitting on a 08 in the showroom at christmas, felt like the screen was a bit low, but felt alrite, almost like its so small you could flick it around alot?


I'm 5ft9ish and it's fine for me Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friends have them. 4 of them bought them in bulk in july 2008. 3 of them are brothers.

The 5 foot 5 guy can reach 70 easily. He can't keep up to me on my RS but he does a good enoguh job. When I don't know where we are going, and he is in the lead, I don't get bored at all. It has enough poke to hit 50 quite easily. This guy has had 5 car crashes (which i was in one) and already 1 off, and 1 crash, and 1 woman revered onto him on his bike. It's built pretty solid aswell. He is abit of a crazy driver/rider.


The 3 below are brothers.

The 5 foot 10 guy is quite fast aswell. He's about 85 KG confirmed and is still pretty fast. I do feel he needs to plan his overtakes, but when that is done and he hammers it, it does it's job.

My other friend who is 5 foot 7 takes it easy. He doesn't feel the need to filter crazy and doesn't feel the pressure to ride like a muppet, even with the sporty looks. He uses it as a commuter which is fine for him.

The last guy is about 6 foot 2 and about 16 stones. He only got it because his bro's did and it helped with the discount. He has only done 80 miles since July and I think he hates it. He looks like a giant ape on it. His foot apparently can't get under the gear change right because he is too big.

I've ridden it myself on 2 occasions for about 10 miles in total. It's a good seating position, with enough speed for 30 mph roads easily. Looks nice and good build quality. Cheap ish on fuel esepcailly compared to my RS125.

Only thing to consider though, is that the front of the bike is virtually on your boys ebcause it is small, and don't let girls see your cool looking bike from the front or the back, incase they see the thinnest of the tyre. The side angle looks okay to pull though :p
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
tutton wrote:

I dont want silly fast, i want transport, with reliablity,

Despite what Goat-boy suggests, even now traffic on NSL dual carriageways can often be averaging 80mph or so.


True. But the majority of restricted 125's struggle to hit 80 and I don't think any of them can go that much faster.

The engine in the CBR125 R (F) Smile is built to take a bit of 'abuse' as its a derivative of a 150cc unit for developing markets. There are plenty of them about as they where the best selling bike in the UK, are going to be younger than the NSR. They hold there value well as there is a strong demand for them.

At the end of the day the CBR125R is a nice commuter in a pretty frock. If you pick one up for a grand, its not going to loose a lot and you will find a buyer when you come to trade it in for a big bike.

The NSR would be more fun though...
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

a 125 can hold its own on most dual carriageways or even motorways. Mine manages 60 before starting to grumble, and will grudgingly push up to 75 in its own good time. HGVs are limited to 56 anyway, and it pisses past them. I was actually surprised to find how much 'normal' traffic I was passing when I first started using dual carriageways.

As long as you use decent lane discipline, you'll be fine.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's much less of an issue now than when I had a CG etc, but I'd still prefer to have a bike that can flow with the traffic with out being topped out.

Saw a (I reckon) 125 4 stroke scooter on the A34 yesterday. Didn't look like they were having a great time when it came to hills etc.
Sure you can get by fine, but it's more enjoyable and safer to have a bike that can comfortably flow with the traffic.
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