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BenBray
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Peg down on VFR400 w/ BT92's Reply with quote

The other day when it was great weather I took the bike out for it's first proper high speed/high lean bash around some corners as I've had it almost a year now and feel I'm letting myself down my not knowing exactly what it's capable of.

So I found a couple corners with that nice high grip stuff and started hooning about only to find that my bike was as solid as a rock until the front suddenly felt like it was pushing.

I've got some BT92's on them front and back and I hear VFR's can scrape piece of piss. Just wondering if it's my tyres or if they're always a little wobbly at the front... or whether I just need to keep pushing.
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PostPosted: 02:33 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Front shouldn't wobble if that is exactly what it did, check tyre wear, suspension, bearings and make sure the surface you were on was actually good not just grippy.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Re: Peg down on VFR400 w/ BT92's Reply with quote

Getting your peg down isn't a great 'target' to my mind.
You can (though don't try this) probably get your peg down by leaning the other way to the bike and going quite slowly. Alternatively, with decent body position (hanging off) and a fast corner your tyres should easily lose traction before your pegs go down.

Did the front end feel like it was sliding away from you, or twitching into the corner Confused. Generally it's the rear that will lose traction first in such situatios, but depends on many factors.

A peg on the deck is much more likely to catch on things and starts to remove an element of suspension from the bike. I believe a rider some know from another forum was killed when his peg caught in a drain cover. A least a knee slider tends to be bigger and flatter, as well as being connected to a fairly flexible part of your body.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As G said... but have you checked your tyre pressures?
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pressures and bike is fine, just feels like it's slipping out a bit. I've never had any rear moments from too much lean, only the front going and I've read that the rear is meant to go before the front most of the time.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenBray wrote:
Pressures and bike is fine, just feels like it's slipping out a bit. I've never had any rear moments from too much lean, only the front going and I've read that the rear is meant to go before the front most of the time.


lean forwards more. and your knee should touch before your pegs.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I had some BT92's on, I also got the pegs down quite alot, this was a few years ago, so may have been because it was a year after me passing and my leaning/hanging off style. I've been on multiple tyres on my bike: BT92, BT090's, Dunlop Alpha 10's, Dunlop Qualifiers, and Avon Viper Sports (crap tyre dont go there), I would say I just peg down'ed on the 92's but thinking about it, I had them in my first year of riding.

I do hang off more now when riding and its hard to say for myself how it has changed over time exactly but probs more than likely it is just to do with that. I think in my earlier riding I did think oh yes but I am hanging off, but I think my foot position was different, cant say exactly, but I used to get my toe sliders scuffed before knee down back when I was pegging it, and my toe sliders never touch now - but I feel faster while not being dangerously low and risking digging in.

One thing...

Although back then I did have quite long scrapes, and have this thing about me thinking nothing was wrong (barmy I know!) I went into a big roundabout going straight on a few weeks ago, quite fast, and tipped it in quickly, needed some more lean, peg just touched floor for a split second before I leant back up, just as the road cambered, and the bike reacted as it touched giving a bit of an uneasy wobble like a start of a highside but not as intense. So it is dangerous if the peg digs into a rut or something, and could end up throwing you off so you should think about leaning more deffo.

I used to think oh its cool I'm grinding out, look at my scrapes, but you could quite easily come off from it whether it be a lowside pushing too far or digging in.

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