The law and visors

[quacker_boy]

Evening boys and girls.

Mum and dad have agreed to pay for my DAS and test for my 21st Birthday present despite the fact they're pretty adamant against me actually getting a bike but hey ho.

Anyway I managed to leave my clear visor in Dubai when I left at the end of Easter and I called up Rob Reed motorcycle training (did my CBT with him, top guy ) to ask about my DAS and my visor. Explained I only had my iridium visor and he said best case scenario; I get pulled over and a slap on the wrist. Worst case scenario being I have an accident and the insurance is null and void.

Can anyone confirm that, if I have a crash the insurance is void?
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wizzzard wrote: Imagine God just stopping by, tidying your front room up and then quietly letting himself out again. Statisticly more likely to happen than Korn being on here.

[colin1]

sounds a bit unlikely to me

but its not going to kill you to get a clear visor, it might create a better impression
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[Ade]

I'd be more worried about if the instructor will even allow you out if he sees the visor mate

When I did my DAS he checked the bike over to make sure it was road legal, as well as the stamp on the helmet. Guess it's going to depend on who you get though

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[mattsprattuk]

for the sake... of £20...
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[.Chris.]

Surely the training school has got lids that you can borrow? Either that or go and buy a cheapo lid for £30 to use for the test. That way you've got a spare lid, or one for pillions.

When I took my test I used a visor instead of the goggles I usually wear, as my instructor said that they're technically not road legal. She said that although they're unlikely to be that picky, if the examiner's in a bad mood then it's something they could pick up on.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Tend to agree with Ade. If you do your test with that on there is a fair chance the examiner will refuse it and cancel the test.

Also if the helmet and visors are from Dubai there is a good chance that they are not UK legal anyway. Which could again result in the test being cancelled.

All the best

Keith
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[MattEMulsion]

Can you not get someone to post it over?
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[quacker_boy]

Keith, the helmet is an AGV GP Pro and although it hasn't got the gold stamp on it would pass the safety test they're put through otherwise the helmets wouldn't be sold on the UK market. Didn't have a problem when I did my CBT a few months back.

Not too sure on the legality of the visor at all, it has 'For daytime use only' written across the top so I would of assumed it's OK if I'm using it during the day?

Matt, hadn't really thought about that as an option, not sure how much it would be to courier it back here, will have to call my Dad tomorrow and check. Ah well, if all else fails I'll just have to wait.
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wizzzard wrote: Imagine God just stopping by, tidying your front room up and then quietly letting himself out again. Statisticly more likely to happen than Korn being on here.

[bob a]

Can only speak for north of the border.

If we stop anyone during the day with a tinted visor and they can proove to us they have a clear visor on them for changing in dark hours then nothing is done. I know cops who go out with the tinted visor but have the clear on in a bum bag or the top box.

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Seb]

Is the GP pro visor the same as the K3? We've got a spare lid in work and I reckon I'd have no problem with letting you borrow it's visor for a few days, the locking mechanism's a bit suspect but I think that's the fault of the lid itself, not the visor. I am still in Plymouth mind so you probably won't save much once you take petrol into account.
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[mattsprattuk]

chris, you are honestly the stingiest person i know.
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[Raf]

They won't let you take it. On my second day's training i forgot to change my visor back and ended up having to use one of there nasty sweaty helmets.
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[The Disapproving Brit]

The main issue is that the tester won't let you out with it. Insurance is a non-issue (I'm not going over it again, but all this 'your insurance will be void if you don't do x' bollocks annoys me immensely)

For the sake of £20-30 for a new visor/cheap lid, its a no-brainer (especially since you won't get the £80 test fee refunded when they refuse to take you out)
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[The Tot]

My instructer specifically told me to NOT wear my dark visor on training. Because he knew i lived around the corner, he told me to go home and swap it for the clear visor. I was back within 5 minutes. I know some visors come with irridium road legal tints as standard (certain AGV's and suomy range toppers). That said Chris, get a clear one off race visors and you get a handy bumbag.
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[benjami]

I did my test and training with a blacked out visor

Nothing was said about it... Or the kids I almost ran over.

[Kickstart]

[quacker_boy]

I'm close to doing a Hetzer style post and going on about the Nazi government that runs the country, but I got smashed last night and I've been at work all day so ergo I can't be bothered.

Think I'm just going to go the whole nine yards now anyway and buy a new lid, always fancied a Shoei XR1000 after trying one on at the NEC

Thanks a lot for the info Keith and everyone else

Would I get away with using the GP Pro as a track helmet? Just out of curiosity...
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wizzzard wrote: Imagine God just stopping by, tidying your front room up and then quietly letting himself out again. Statisticly more likely to happen than Korn being on here.

[Paulington]

I've never been stopped for my visor or helmet, both of which are as illegal as they get.

However, they wouldn't let me take my test with my helmet as it is Snell standard, not BS/ACU or w/e. Even with a clear (though still illegal) visor.
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