Superbikes Vs Supercars

[binge]

The only time I've ever had a running with a supercar / Performance car when on the bike is when I was on the CBR400.

I've never really had a race with a fast car on the TLR. Until tonight.


And it's made me realise how much of a higher league bikes are compared to cars.

I was following a Nissan 350Z. He was clearly booting it out of the corners. Then I followed him down the slip road onto the M2 London bound.

I found myself short shifting because it was that easy to keep up.


I had the impression the 350Z's were fast? Like really fast?
It made my TLR seem like a rocket. He got to about 130. And I just pelted past him. Then slowed down when he was almost out of sight.

Then he finally caught up, Gave me a wave, And sped off up the Motorway while I came off at the exit ramp.


Quite surprised really.





Ben

[Paulington]

Only the real high price cars tend to keep up with the bikes on acceleration. Unless we are talking about Smartukis!

Similar power/weight cars and bikes however, the cars will always be faster than the bike.

Jerez for example, F1 cars lap in 1m22s, MotoGP in 1m40s iirc.

But for the road, bikes > cars in terms of speed.
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[T0MMY]

Why did you think they were really fast? MUCH faster cars around than that. Obviously bikes accelerate way quicker than cars, it's keeping up around a series of bends that can be hard. I think that I can carry more mid corner speed on the bike but going through a series of bends involving braking and changing direction?... I think I'm quicker in my car I used to hare down some very nice driving roads in Scotland of a weekend and sad to say but I always caught bikes through the twisty bits.
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[Rottweiler]

2 up on my bro's cb500 and we beat a Porsche Boxster S i think it was from the lights up to about 100mph then ran out of road im sure it would of beat us after that but top speed on the cb is only 120ish.

was quite suprised tbh the little cb was carrying 26 stone and beat it.

^^^ your suzuki would of made it look like a 1.0 corsa
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[wizzzard]

I was absolutely destroyed by a very bling looking range rover about a month ago. I was on the zxr750 side by side with it on a duel carriageway that went from a 40 to a 70. We got to the speed limit marker and we both nailed it and all i saw was it pull away from me like i was going backwards. I wouldn't have felt so bad if it were a throughbred sports car but a big heavy chunk of off roader is frankly embarrassing.
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[binge]

Hmm, Alot of mixed opinions on cars vs bikes.


Jim (Dam_buster) has just picked up a 1.8 Lotus Elise powered Rover Metro. Its boasting 160bhp and it actually rips!

We were out in it the other night, Pushing skylines aside, Scoobys, Evos, Pissed off an M3 on the motorway too.
But my TLR along side the Metro, And its a different story all together.


So example. Would a Lambo Gallardo give my TLR a good running?
Similar 0-60 on the manufacturer spec. Obvs top speed the Lambo will be a bit faster.






Ben

[Stevie B]

350Zs aren't that fast atall really, only Boxster/TT 225 speed so not surprised atall that you spanked him.

Against a sportsbike I reckon you've got to be looking at a Lambo or Noble type jobbie to give you a decent race to 100/120. Past that I would expect the car to pull away.

To be fair this whole scenario has been debated to death on this forum.
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[T0MMY]

What speed did you roll on from? I find it difficult to believe that there's a road legal range rover anywhere in the world that would out accelerate a ZXR750 at reasonable speeds Where you in the wrong gear or something?
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[T0MMY]

[wizzzard]

[swiftb]

350z's aren't particularly fast cars, Porsche Boxsters definetly aren't fast!

[T0MMY]

I out dragged a Boxster in my rusty old 200SX joining a motorway when he tried to undertake me on the sliproad. The look of confusion and dismay on his face as I crept past was priceless, he was almost rocking in his seat willing the car to go faster 350Zs are quicker than those older boxsters, not sure how quick the newer ones are these days though?
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[binge]

The TLR is great, In fact, Amazing at 10mph+ roll ons.
I cant even stay with sports 600s off the lights, Just cant launch the TLR. It just doesn't launch.
I've heard they have a two stage clutch or something? I dunno, It either bogs down a bit, Or it wants to throw me off the back. No happy medium on a race start.

[T0MMY]

[c_dug]

To be fair i had a porche cayenne the other month that left me standing from about the same sort of speed (40mph+), it was seriously uber quick, had some letters on the back which im assuming was some sort of tuning company, my bike isnt the fastest in the world and im the first to admit it, but this thing would have given alot of bikes a run for thier money without a doubt.

c_dug
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[The Tot]

Nothing ever beats me or my mates in the bike club off the lights this side of a well launched porsche 911 GT3/Turbo. Only trouble is when you run out of straights of have to brake for roundabouts.

But, cruising speed roll ons are another matter. You need to snick it down 2-3 gears to keep it infront of a supercar doing 80mph+ once your in top gear. Above 130, most unrestricted supercars leave you for dead (that or i was being a wuss and let off the gas); in this case it was a bentley continental GT on the A46.

I'd say that most 600cc supersports are on par in terms of sub 150 straightline performance with the 430/911/gallardo type cars with 400's drawing parallels with evo FQ320's/WRX Stis etc.
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[alun111]

I've not really ever had cars try to race me, but in the last couple of days I've had an rx8 try to race me from the lights on my bandit 4 and I kept up with him and then eventually pulled away, and then today I had an old mr2 try when on my hornet and I had him easily - he was clearly trying as we were both doing 80-90 on a 40 road!
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[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

During this weeks Superbike race from Thruxton, Jamie Whitham said a British Superbike had a better power to weight ratio than an F1 car. But i'm not entirely sure what that means in layman terms. Less power needed to push the same amount of weight? Not sure.


Pat
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[Seb]

Ranger rover sport V8s with the supercharger are surprisingly quick I'm surprised that the TLR is a pig to launch though, the SP1 is absolute cake if I'm not concerned about how much noise I make although I suspect much of that is down to the combination of big torque and that tall first gear.
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[Rottweiler]

think it comes down to bottle (how long you dare keep the power on) if you have a litre sportsbike cant see anything getting near you until stupidly high speeds 160 plus

2008 zx10 does 0-180mph in 13 seconds what car is guna challange that ? only a veyron or ksieogggngg or what ever its called.
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[Faraz]

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[Mord]

£50k cars can keep up with bikes.. i.e. new Nissan GT-R


but then again.. £50k is a big price

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