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Glen
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 12 Jun 2009    Post subject: Bike to Bike Radios @ Maplin Reply with quote

Apologies for the somewhat blatant spam (yes I do work for maplin, but don't hold it against me Wink ) but as it's biker related I thought I'd risk a Karma bashing in case anyone actually gets some use out of it.

Maplin are currently running an offer on a set of 2Way radios wherby you get two helmet kits for free when you purchase them so essentially a full two person radio kit for 80 quid which I don't think is a bad offer Question

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PostPosted: 10:30 - 12 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great minds and all that. I ordered a set earlier this morning!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 12 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a throat mic in that pic. Could be promising, i look forward to hearing how it performs.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 12 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

proximity wrote:
Looks like a throat mic in that pic. Could be promising, i look forward to hearing how it performs.


We've got the same headset, it's a microphone covered in foam which sticks into the front of the helmet, not a throat mike.

They work quite well although it's difficult to find a non-annoying place for the PTT button.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 12 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah i was looking at the PTT switch, never mind
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 12 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a set of these from Maplin way back in the mists of time. The radios are different, but the helmet kits look the same.

The radios themselves are pretty good as long as you are prepared for the limitations of the short range. If you’ve lost sight of the other rider they may already be out of range. My radios only had 8 channels, although I see that these ones have additional sub channels. Only having 8 meant the possibility of interference or eavesdropping from other users of PMR radios nearby.

The headsets worked ok with my only complaint being the push to talk button. It’s a fairly big, rubber coated unit that you Velcro somewhere convenient. If you use the system for a pillion then they can just hold the PTT button or Velcro it to a glove finger. I assumed that the best place for me to have the PTT was on the left hand grip, but I found it a pain to use at the same time as the clutch. I looked at the PTT arrangement on a Police bike and he had a much smaller button mounted on a bracket just below the left grip where the thumb could reach it while using the clutch.

As with any bike comms wind noise can be a problem. The PTT is a good way around that, but you can set the radios up for voice activation so they become completely hands free. The problem there is often missing the first syllable of someone’s sentence and the mic suddenly activating due to wind noise.

My radios mostly got used rider to pillion or rider to car and I was pretty happy with them. I still have the helmet kits, but I loaned my radios to a “mate” about five years ago and haven’t seen them since. Sad

Looks like a good deal. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 12 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serendipity wrote:
The radios themselves are pretty good as long as you are prepared for the limitations of the short range. If you’ve lost sight of the other rider they may already be out of range. My radios only had 8 channels, although I see that these ones have additional sub channels. Only having 8 meant the possibility of interference or eavesdropping from other users of PMR radios nearby.


The restriction is because the maximum legal power for these radios in the UK is 0.5W.

There is a hack you can do to enable these radios for 3W power which should increase range considerably - search for "midland g7 3w modification".
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does "5km range" mean "500 meter range" ?
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PostPosted: 06:09 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a bargain.
Would be handy for offroading for the first and last bike. Don't ride often enough with the same people to justify buying them though.
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PostPosted: 06:47 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
Does "5km range" mean "500 meter range" ?

1000 meters to 1 km
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

priestessuk2000 wrote:
calyx wrote:
Does "5km range" mean "500 meter range" ?

1000 meters to 1 km


I was asking the exaggeration rate.
"Is the range 10 time exaggerated" would be better Wink
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I am after an intercom.
What do you think about the fleabay item 400008409894 ?
Is it a better product or same? or even worse?
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the people too lazy to C&P.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400008409894&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3907.m38.l1313%26_nkw%3D400008409894%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just gone for the Maplins deal, I think on a quick Google round that Cobras' MT600 do not seem to have as many recommendations for bike to bike more as a hiking tool .

Midland stuff is also branded in Europe and the RotW as Alan , and takes the same jacks for accessories , so a quick skim of the availability of charging kits and boom mikes etc has prompted me to pay the extra 10 squid for the Midland G7's.

Also they can use the Euro LPR bands , which is where we are most likely to use them.

However can't seem to find a page detailing the 3W mod in English... but not really bothered at the mo' as we need to play with them first to see if it is even needed.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not after saving 10 quid really.
If you say "maplin stuff is better" I will go for it.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 13 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
I'm not after saving 10 quid really.
If you say "maplin stuff is better" I will go for it.


Autocom recommend them and several other peeps I have spoken to reckon they are fairly robust and good within line of sight for a mile on the motorway...which is all we want them for.

They are also supposed to be the best of the budget sets.


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PostPosted: 14:15 - 14 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents got a very similar (might been the same) kit from Lidl for £50 a few months back and it was rubbish. The wind noise was too and the reception poor even though it was a rider and pillion setup.

They took them back. I'd be interested to hear updates from the people who bought them if these come up ok or not?
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 14 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS If you use Quidco then you get an extra %4 off.

https://www.quidco.com/electricals/maplin-electronics/

So that knocks it down to 75 quid and you get free delivery too Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 14 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
PS If you use Quidco then you get an extra %4 off.

https://www.quidco.com/electricals/maplin-electronics/

So that knocks it down to 75 quid and you get free delivery too Thumbs Up


Ahh bugger - why did you not post this yesterday! Smile
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 15 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

any sunday ride reviews?
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 15 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
any sunday ride reviews?


Will do one as soon as they arrive, but the real test will be in July in Europe.

Don't do Sunday ride reports as all my bikes are kept ready to be ridden on a daily basis.

A bike is for using not just for a sunday "hobby" or constantly cleaning and polishing it, to keep it's ephemeral resale value! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 15 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grazoid wrote:
calyx wrote:
any sunday ride reviews?


Will do one as soon as they arrive, but the real test will be in July in Europe.

Don't do Sunday ride reports as all my bikes are kept ready to be ridden on a daily basis.

A bike is for using not just for a sunday "hobby" or constantly cleaning and polishing it, to keep it's ephemeral resale value! Very Happy


So that's a no then? Confused
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 15 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like Neutral
BTW I hate sunday riders in full leathers.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 15 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
looks like Neutral
BTW I hate sunday riders in full leathers.


Based on what? Religious grounds? Are the roads softer on a Sunday? Confused
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 15 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
calyx wrote:
looks like Neutral
BTW I hate sunday riders in full leathers.


Based on what? Religious grounds? Are the roads softer on a Sunday? Confused


Naww just full of people on 2 wheels and 4 who should stay at home and do another hobby, that is safer for them and everyone else on the road Very Happy
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