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PostPosted: 08:09 - 17 Apr 2008    Post subject: Dog cages Reply with quote

Gonna be looking at getting a dog cage in the next couple of weeks for our 9 month old pup, we do a lot of camping through the spring/summer months and would like to take our dog but dont want to let him run loose round the tent.

Anyone had any experience in introducing a pup into and accepting being in a cage for the evening and 1 or 2 hours throughout the day when we are down on the beach?
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 17 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got a 4ft cage for my 10month old staffy and his absolutly fine in it. Just sticked his bed in it and some toys. I left it open for a few weeks for him to wander in and out when he liked so he got used to it now i can lock him in it when i need to and his fine. Just lies down and goes to sleep. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 17 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Please, PLEASE remember that inside a tent gets VERY VERY VERY VERY hot during the daytime Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation



What's wrong with taking the pup to the beach with you? All part and parcel of owning a pup. Very Happy Splashing about in the water is great fun, especially when they don't know what it is.

EDIT: One of these is also incredibly handy when camping with your dog... Worth it's weight in gold!

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PostPosted: 14:49 - 17 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:17 - 17 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to make the cage feel like a safe place for the puppy by making sure that when he's there, nobody disturbs him.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 18 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard recommendations for these textile dog cages when camping, as they are so much lighter to transport than a cage.

https://www.dog-bag.co.uk/dbgintro.html
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 18 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
You need to make the cage feel like a safe place for the puppy by making sure that when he's there, nobody disturbs him.


And then when someone one day does disturb the dog and it freaks out you will realise this is not the best plan, the dog needs to be used to being down the pecking order.

Not disturbing your dog will not help to reinforce that, the dog will feel most secure when it knows it place.

I personally wouldn't get a dog and take it on holiday to leave in a cage, it spoils the point of taking the dog.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 18 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemma1675 wrote:
I have heard recommendations for these textile dog cages when camping, as they are so much lighter to transport than a cage.

https://www.dog-bag.co.uk/dbgintro.html


Gemma.... Although I think this is a cracking idea....

The OP has a 9 month old staffie, he's planning on leaving it unattended in a strange place, that smells strange, will have so many new sounds going on around him...
The dogbag wouldn't last a few minutes once the pup had got his teeth into it.

Neither would the rest of the tent.Laughing

Guv... I disagree with what you've said to Paivi, when cage training a dog, Paivi has the right idea the dog does need to feel safe in the cage, it's his/her space. I actually agree with cage-training.
I do, however, agree that it seems a shame to take a dog on holiday to be locked up in a tent.

Again, to the OP, Please take into consideration the temperature inside the zipped up tent during the day.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 18 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lozzypop1 wrote:


Guv... I disagree with what you've said to Paivi, when cage training a dog, Paivi has the right idea the dog does need to feel safe in the cage, it's his/her space. I actually agree with cage-training.


So do I when its done properly, but not disturbing the dog means not going near it, how do you make the dog feel safe in its cage by just locking it in and not going near it. Ok the dog would probably get used to it but surely the emphasis is on making the dog feel secure. Which to me means letting the dog know that even though its in the cage you will be back and the dog will feel comfortable in the knowledge that you will be back, how can you make the dog know you are coming back by not going near it.

The first stages must surely be the dog in the cage when you are in the house with you not going to the dog for a certain amount of time but keep going back and extending the time period you are away each time. Much like what I have read about when training your dog to be left indoors, you extend the period of absence, I am thinking you cant do that without disturbing the dog.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 18 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I apologise, now that you've expanded on your original comment, I agree with you to a certain extent too.

Although, if you have children, the dog should also be able to use the cage as somewhere to escape. Therefore, it should be a good idea to encourage kiddies to leave the dog alone after it has retired to bed.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 18 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong end of the stick, Guv.

What you do in cage training is introduce the cage into the room, but make no fuss. The puppy will be curious and go and investigate, but he shouldn't be forced into it.

You should put a blanket that has his, or his mother's, smell on it into the cage; this will encourage the puppy to go in, and will make him feel more comfortable and safe. Put some of his toys in it, and he can't resist going in.

From the start, you should leave the cage open and leave the dog in peace, especially kids shouldn't go and pet the dog when he's in his cage. By all means move around by it, even talk casually to the doggy, extending it to stooping down next to the cage to talk to him, but don't pet him, leave him safe in the knowledge that when he's in the cage, nobody will be there to tug his tail or prod him in the eye.

Him knowing that there's one place in the house where he can run to when people are shouting at each other and kids are running around playing wild games does not mean that he doesn't know his place.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 18 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Wrong end of the stick, Guv.

What you do in cage training is introduce the cage into the room, but make no fuss. The puppy will be curious and go and investigate, but he shouldn't be forced into it.

You should put a blanket that has his, or his mother's, smell on it into the cage; this will encourage the puppy to go in, and will make him feel more comfortable and safe. Put some of his toys in it, and he can't resist going in.

From the start, you should leave the cage open and leave the dog in peace, especially kids shouldn't go and pet the dog when he's in his cage. By all means move around by it, even talk casually to the doggy, extending it to stooping down next to the cage to talk to him, but don't pet him, leave him safe in the knowledge that when he's in the cage, nobody will be there to tug his tail or prod him in the eye.

Him knowing that there's one place in the house where he can run to when people are shouting at each other and kids are running around playing wild games does not mean that he doesn't know his place.


I agree with all of that apart from the bit about not petting when in the crate and the rabble explanation that followed. Having children in the house I made a concious effort to make a fuss of the dog whilst it is in the crate to get it used to the fact that it still isn't the ruler of the kingdom whilst it's in there. The last thing I can stop is a baby/kids running up and poking fingers into the crate 24/7.
A dog doesn't need a set 'safe' place to run to when there is a fuss being kicked. It will run to the first place it see's fit, and if it is disturbed will run to another.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 19 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a metal cage for our husky, we didn't have a choice whether to use a cage or not, we have learnt from other husky owners mistakes ( https://www.siberianhuskyclub.com/huskydamage ). We leave the cage door open when we are in & she knows this is her place for a bit of peace, we don't go in there except to get her bowls, but I would not discourage not petting the dog in the cage, it has to learn to accept you on your grounds in it's area. Ours cried for the 1st 2 nights as a 10week old puppy, but now she knows it's her bed, she is not put in there for punishment or you would make getting her in it hard.. we took the cage camping with us & used one of those corkscrew ground anchors when in the tent but made sure, even on the dog-friendly beach, she was not left behind... it's not fair on the pooch Smile

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PostPosted: 12:48 - 19 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06:34 - 17 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I buy these in the UK?
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 17 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cages are temporary things in an ideal world. My rescue Collie dug her way through a plasterboard wall..twice Exclamation I had no alternative but to borrow a cage or kill her. Never used one before, so just popped her blanket in and left her to it. When she started sleeping in it(better than the kitchen floor) i would push the cage door to and then open it. Any treats were thrown in the cage..she soon made it home after a 2hr bone munching session, and sussed she had her own water bowl.
I believe in reinforcing the pecking order with dogs(some don't need it) and as i have a daughter i made sure that she could control our dogs, that includes telling the dog to leave the cage ( a simple 'out' command with gesture) Theres lots of subtle things you can do to maintain a happy pack.
Getting a pup/dog used to a cage is simple compared to using a ground anchor. All my intelligent well trained dogs still tie themselves in knots when i tether them Rolling Eyes But as mentioned they're handy on busy camp sites. Also mentioned was keeping the pup/dog involved in what you do. The most underrated thing posted Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 17 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cage training a dog is easy! Our pup sleeps in a cage, all we did was stick her in and
allowed her to get on with it. We were in the room with her as we were sleeping too. The first
Couple of nights she gave us a bit of shit but we ignored it completly or told her to shhh.
After that she accepted it and now takes herself off to her cage when she gets tired.
The only advice you need is, make them have it and don't pander to them,
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 17 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay year old thread resurrection!

As others have stated, crate training isn't that difficult - my staff took to it no problem - struggles with a tie-out stake though, he even managed to bend it.
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