Just seen this on the Telegraph! RIP

[cc1234]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5507922/Motorcyclist-filmed-death-of-friend-as-they-broke-speed-limit.html
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

Looks word for word the same story in the Sun - who's ripping who off?
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(Dunno wtf happened there!)

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[Dischord]

Ahhh fuck man, that's not a very nice video incase anyone is sensitive!

One minute having a blast the next - dead! RIP I guess.
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[Luke_Retrofly]

Overtaking at those speeds in between cars is always dodgy. Its probably ok to do regular overtakes but when you have on coming vehicles it starts getting dodgy.

hindsight is always a good thing.

[Rob]

[Luke_Retrofly]

I don't think I used the term correctly in that sentence, but you get what I mean.

"Its easier to say that with hindsight "

Was probably better

[Kwaks]

Did read that at the time, and thought IMO it was pretty insensitive to prosecute the rider who had:

1 Just lost his mate
2. Provided the footage to the accident investigation
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[Rob]

What did the rider with the camera think submitting that footage to the police would achieve?

Surely nobody in their right mind would willingly submit that to the police as it would incriminate both riders!

I can only assume the police at the scene saw the camera and confiscated it as evidence??

[edit] now reading the telegraph article it does appear that the officer saw the camera and took the footage!
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[flat spot]

Perfect footage as to why speed cameras don't work. Slow down for the camera then onto 150 within minutes.
Shame about the ending.

[dgo1212]

I like how they fail to mention that the hatchback he hit started to overtake without warning,cutting him off and being as responsible for the accident as the rider

Edit-just saw it commented on in the other thread

[mistergixer]

Watching/reading stuff like that reminds me of exactly why i sold my bike.
Tiny mistake = massive consequences
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[Silver]

[colin1]

Ok earlier they did silly speeds, but that overtake wasnt really the bikes fault, more the car's fault.

It makes me think that filtering along the white line flitting back and forth across it is a bit dodgy, as people just don't know you are there, as they don't check their wing mirror before an overtake, or indicate.

I used to think that overtakes should be done as fast as possible, to get out of danger quickly, but that makes me think overtakes should be done faster than 80.

If the biker had been overtaking at 80, instead of 100, he may have had more time to react.

Still car's fault, but its better to be alive than just right. Being in the right and dead, just isn't as good as being in the wrong but alive.
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[Shaun]

How is that the cars fault?

Did you see the speed the bike approached the car at? He'd have checked it was ok to go, moved out then suddenly had a bike in his arse.

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[Rob]

[colin1]

[Luke_Retrofly]

Being dead = in the wrong
Being alive = doing the correct thing

Simple

[Shaun]

I think what the obvious thing to point out here is that Colin is a tool.

You can't accelerate that damn hard down a white line (essentially what it is) with oncoming traffic and expect to get away with it every time. The number one rule to always keep in mind when riding like a dick is to have an escape route.

You might be riding like a dick but if you already know what your plan of action is should shit start going bad then you're onto a winner.

The driver had no chance of spotting the bike coming up that quick from behind the car behind him, he hardly put himself in the most visible position, did he. I thought with the amount of time you'd been riding Colin you'd know the very basic of staying alive rules when it comes to riding.

[Drew]

Car driver shouldn't have been crossing the chevrons though.

I'm not saying the car is fully to blame, as if the bike wasn't accelerating as it was, the driver would have probably seen him, but the car should not have been overtaking anyway, where as the bike was overtaking legally as he did not cross into the chevrons, but was speeding.

Personally, if I was overtaking cars in the same position, i would only be doing 10-15mph more than the cars, not 40-50mph faster.

[nick606]

I though the guy on zxr reacted slowly when the car start overtaking, but this is exactly the kind of stuff that makes me seriously think of selling the bike.

The same thing almost happened to me the other week but i wasn't going quite as fast, just someone failed to do a shoulder check / just didn't see me and almost took me out. Im starting to think is it really worth the risk. gay i know but you cant be lucky for ever.