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Pete.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Rules on soft-air guns etc? Reply with quote

What's the rules on having/using soft-air guns like BB guns around dwellings etc?

I want to make a 'cat deterrent' device to keep a pair of Bengals out of my garden, but not actually hurt the animals, just keep them from attacking my cat. I'm thinking I could make a gun with auto-reload, mount it on my garage with one of my infra-red surveillance cameras as targetting, remote operation by servo and an auto-reload system for bb ammo.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly its pretty obvious thats illegal.. andd secondly wouldn't you get shot at every time you went in the garden? and it'd shoot your own cat? and random birds flying past? Laughing would be sooo awesome, i'd send people out in the garden without warning them Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hardly be able to shoot myself from inside my garage now would I and I think I'd recognise my own cat?

BB guns are illegal now? First I'd heard of it.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxBa5bQfTGc
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
I'd hardly be able to shoot myself from inside my garage now would I and I think I'd recognise my own cat?

BB guns are illegal now? First I'd heard of it.


Why so serrrrrrrious? Laughing

I thought you was gonna set it up by computer to shoot anything that moves, didn't realise youd sit at your computer waiting for something to shoot Laughing

And do you really think neighbours wouldnt call the cops if they saw you had a computer controlled bb gun on your roof? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok that sentry is pretty cool, but way more than I'm looking for. I just want to teach these mogs a non-harmful lesson to keep out of my garden coz the vets bills are getting silly. I thought a BB-style gun would do the job just fine.

I actually did have one of them stroll into my garage a few weeks ago bold as brass. I pushed the door shut and chased it around the garage for a few laps making loud noises by banging on a puffed-up carrier bag until it was truly shitting itself, climbing up the walls and knocking stuff off the shelves etc, then I let it out. Now it only comes in the garden when it can't see me. My garage has no windows etc so they won't see me and I can't see out.

Who knows one day my dog might actually catch one and then I won't have to bother Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Electric fencing at cat level, one shock and they learn.

If it was my garden I would use a combination of explosives and flashguns and electric shock type things.

Ever seen I am legend? That bit near the end. Yeah that's what my garden would look like.

Pink bit - house
blue bit - nerve center of operation cat destroy
green wires - control wires to explosives and flash guns.
infared type security camera. flash guns go off when movement detected. then after 5 flashes within 30 minutes, explosive charges go off with flash guns.

cats 0 Geri 1


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PostPosted: 22:36 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looked at that Sentry Project site and I see it does mouse aiming as well as autonomous mode. Now I'm getting more enthusiastic, because my PC in the garage has a serial interface for the gun and it's on the network I can VNC to it from anywhere, and use ISPY to view the camera, so theoretically I could manually control the gun from anywhere I can get an internet connection.

Still have no idea on legality. I would have thought that as long as I don't harm the animals and restrict the range of fire to within my garden it should be legal?
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A powerful water pistol or sprinkler system would be better, cheaper, much much more legal and much less hassle.

And you don't have to be a member of a 'Waterpistol society/club/group' to legally buy a water pistol, hose pipe or sprinkler system.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm now that's an idea. I can rig-up a 100psi compressed-air-powered watercannon easily enough. No problem with legality either then.

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PostPosted: 23:21 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother with any of that shit.

Just buy a super-soaker. Fill it with Coke and soak them next time they come into your garden to bum your car or whatever. Cats are obsessed with keeping themselves clean and it will take days to get the sticky coke out of their fur. They'll hate it so much they'll never come back into your garden again.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fanta would be better.

Cats can't stand citrus anything. try feeding your cat a piece of orange, it will actually pull a face
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.airsoftworld.net/airsoft-guns/two-tone-guns-no-vcra-ukara-registration-required/two-tone-budget-range-of-guns/two-tone-double-eagle-m4-m83-aeg.html

This will do the job fine. Cheap and no restrictions as it's 50% a bright colour.

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PostPosted: 10:12 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get an RC Ferret and pursue the bastard things around the garden shooting BB's up their arse.
My dog is doing a good job of keeping the local shats out, but they've learnt that he's only out when we're in - consequently i'll often get home to find one of the feline fuckers in my garden. Once i cry havoc and let slip the dog of war, they quickly scarper - one day he'll get one, and i'll laugh!

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PostPosted: 16:33 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

im thinking of doing the same sort of thing ive got a mini camera on top of a tamyia mini cooper chassis and thats all working fine in terms of i can see where im driving but next step is adding some sort of weapon's Cool pictures later of how far my current project is coming on,

its not much but its still in development Cool plus the cameras are cheap on ebay for the quaility of them, better frps than most webcams and even better than some other cams on the market plus there about the size of 3 pound coins stuck together.

auto sensing airsoft sentry Thinking
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

allymoss wrote:
Fanta would be better.

Cats can't stand citrus anything. try feeding your cat a piece of orange, it will actually pull a face


So real lemon juice would be like devil-water to a cat?

Lemon-juice & coke cocktail for double-effectiveness?
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
one day he'll get one, and i'll laugh!
Twisted Evil

Reality:
He will catch one ... promptly receive the sharp ends of a cornered cat ... probably kill it, but in the process get his eyeballs, eyelids, mouth, nose neck cut to shreds.
You will then receive a huge vets bill to fix the damage and stop the infections that set in when bitten by a cat ... and unlikely to be laughing that much.

Have you ever really seen a cornered or 'caught' cat ?
Not one chased around a garage or garden .. but caught and fighting for its life.
They are mental them cats !

Would you mess with my bad boi ? note: he is about the size of a terrier and brings home squirrels for tea.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah they are deadly. I rescued this wee little kitten just after Christmas - freezing to death on a building site. Two of us cornered it in a small cupboard and I gave the other lad that thermal hat in the pic to put over it's head. He didn't bother and as soon as he got a hand on it the kitten sunk both sets of claws and all it's teeth into his fingers and wouldn't let go Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxBa5bQfTGc


That's the best thing I've ever seen. Well, almost. Time to learn electronics and programming. Surprised
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cats hate citrusy stuff.

Lemon Juice and coke is brilliant. Coke may dilute the sheer awesomeness of lemon juice. Just lemon juice will be enough me thinks as they will have to lick it out of their hair which will piss them off.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
Would you mess with my bad boi ? note: he is about the size of a terrier and brings home squirrels for tea.
https://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t69/silky666/Family/siddie_small.jpg


I see your challenge and I raise you my two bad boi's, one who brings home rabbit's, fights jack russells and vizsla's and is quick as a flash.

The other (the teenage) nutjob who eats bee's for breakfast and takes on fully grown cats without mercy. Twisted Evil

Back on topic - just use water, it's far easier/more effective.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:

Silky's dream:
He will catch one ... promptly receive the sharp ends of a cornered cat ... probably kill it, but in the process get his eyeballs, eyelids, mouth, nose neck cut to shreds.


My dream:
(Just shy of) 3 stone of solid muscle ending in powerful crushing jaws seizes cat by its pathetic skull, shakes cat until its spine snaps. Dog's owner then proceeds to stamp bloody remnants of cat into lawn in a victory dance. Dance!

Reality:
Cat jumps over back fence, as usual.
Wink

What is amusing, is that the 2 houses backing onto mine also have dogs. My dog charges out barking, cat leaps over back fence into garden 1, sounds of barking and snarling and cat scrabbling over fence into garden 2, more sounds of barking and snarling and cat scrabbling over fence into dogless garden. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
My dream:
(Just shy of) 3 stone of solid muscle ending in powerful crushing jaws seizes cat by its pathetic skull


One of ours has been there, survived the broken jaw in two places and lives to torment the tale by fighting back.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
and cat scrabbling over fence

Scrabbling?

Mate, cats don't scrabble, we leap.
Gracefully.
If we are in a hurry due to excess local doggage, we might "hurtle", but never scrabble.

We only "scrabble" when we are playing wordgames against illiterate and incompetent humans who can't think of any word larger than "bum" and "cock" - which causes them to crease up laughing unnecessarily ... and who cannot seem to think of anything other to do with their tiles other than grout them.

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PostPosted: 20:42 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scouse: I like the look of the 'siamese' looking one ... looks proper he does. Nice looking mog.
Certainly looks like he would give my Sidney a run for his money.
(but my cats shoulders are fookin huge .. a proper thug he is ... but Daddys boy)

Misxtergixxer: Yeah, a cat will run ... and a dog will kill it if its caught ..... I agree.
But when it has nowhere to run, and cant escape ... then the vets bill at the end for you mutt will stop you encouraging it again.
Cats (like most animals with sharp bits) are mental when cornered.

Mine got trapped by a German Shepperd once .... got badly bitten on the back legs ... poor little moggy Sad ..... Dog lost an eye, and you can still see the scars from the vets attempts to stop the infections and fix the cuts on its face.
The fur still doesnt grow around patches on its neck either.

Having said that .... Dogs are mental too, cos he still wants to get at my Sid ... even after all that damage ... everytime my cat strolls past the gate the dog foams at the mouth Smile
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