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PostPosted: 17:28 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Kawasaki Z1000 Restriction Reply with quote

Hi, i'm in my 2 year restriction still, just purchased a Z1000, and my dad (c*@t) is making me restrict it. I asked the kawasaki dealer if they could take them out again if i booked it in again a week later. But no. So, where is it restricted? And how do i go about removing them?

PS I'm not after lectures on how i should keep it legal, thanks.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:30 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused Is restricting it in the first place not going to make it a nightmare to ride?

How old a Z1000 is it? If its carbed it will likely be washers and perhapse some sort of throttle stop too, if its FI then i dont know to be honest, probably something electronic though.

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PostPosted: 06:41 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Kawasaki Z1000 Restriction Reply with quote

GeorgeCBR wrote:
Hi, i'm in my 2 year restriction still, just purchased a Z1000, and my dad (c*@t) is making me restrict it. I asked the kawasaki dealer if they could take them out again if i booked it in again a week later. But no. So, where is it restricted? And how do i go about removing them?

PS I'm not after lectures on how i should keep it legal, thanks.


Your dad isn't stupid, he'll know the difference between a restricted and unrestricted 1000cc bike.

Most carbed bikes are restricted by washers in the intake/carb rubbers, but I have no idea how they do it on fuel injected bikes.
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PostPosted: 07:14 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Kawasaki Z1000 Restriction Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


Your dad isn't stupid, he'll know the difference between a restricted and unrestricted 1000cc bike.

Most carbed bikes are restricted by washers in the intake/carb rubbers, but I have no idea how they do it on fuel injected bikes.


On FI bikes it can be done in a variety of ways.

A difference ECU. To change it back you'll need the standard ECU.

A stopper on the throttle body to prevent the throttle cam from moving all the way around, so it limits the throttle movement. To change it back you just have to remove the stopper.

Washers in the inlet. The same as carbed bikes. Usually used in conjunction with the stopper on the throttle body. To change it back simply remove the washers.

My Mille was restricted by the lower two, I was limted to about 30% throttle with huge washers in the inlet. Still, getting the 120 bhp bike was quite amusing when you're used to the 33bhp version.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

there can be a variety of ways,
1) 4 washers between the airbox and carbs
2) 4 washers between the carbs and engine
3) ECU/CDI restriction.
4) throttle stop. (your throttle will only move a little bit)

... these are the only ones i know.

i de-restricted my 600 hornet when my parents were on holiday. (i had the same dad issue)

if its a older carburetted model the most common way is inlet blades.
take the tank off, then airbox, undo the carbs and lift them out of the way, there should be 4 big silver washers, just pop them out and put everything back. (this is how mine was restricted)

hopefully this should be it.

If its fuel injected then its likely youll have a throttle stop and the washers in the airbox.

my advice is go round a friends to do it one day, and set aside a few hours just incase you run into any problems.

good luck.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think its fuel injected, most likely it'll just be a throttle stop and different map/ecu.

Could prove to be a bitch to de-restrict.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you could do... go to the kawi dealer on a quiet day when most people are at work and get talking to one of the shop workers. then bring up restrictors and all that... then ask if he could ask one of the mechanics to de-restrict your bike in his own time for cash.

ive come across a few mechanics that are willing to do this for abit of quick cash.

could be your best shot if nothing else works.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to say this but isnt it ilegal for a mechanics in the industry of your own bike to de ristrict a bike than they manufacture, as these are the people who maybe fit these restrictors so why would they then un resitrict it :S

Also when i took my little scooter to a motobike shop for de ristriction they turned me away as its against the law because ur de ristricting a bike that is ment to be doing a certain power/hp that they have infused in it.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No its not illegal for a mechanic to de-restrict a bike, what you do with it once its de-restricted, isn't upto them.
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 24 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is a modern Z it will be a throttle stop, on the throttle bodies.

Whip the tank off whip the airbox off and twist the throttle you should see the throttle butterflies moving. You should also see something blocking the movement on the side of the throttle bodies. That is what needs to be removed.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, thanks for the info people. MarJay my dad knows fuck all haha, he thinks it's restricted now, when it's not actually getting done till next week, the only reason i told him it's been done is so i can ride it.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This depends on how much you can lie to your dad, my dad is a cunt most of the time so i could do this quite easily.

Ride to "the kawasaki dealer" and get bike "restricted" - In reality, go for a hoon for a few hours, pocket the cash for restriction.

Come back and never mention the restriction, ever! Unless he asks, in which case you say "i have realised how powerfull these bikes really are and i am glad it is restricted as it means i can ride to the letter of the law much easier, please buy me a fluffy kittehn" Your dad will proudly smile at how mature his son is, you will have a full power Z1000, and the £200 odd quid that it was going to cost to restrict, to maintaint karma balance make sure to take good care of teh kitteh.

Perfect.

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PostPosted: 21:22 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually getting mine done though, one, to see what a thou will be like restricted, and two, i want the certificate so i can shove it in some traffic coppers face when they ask. Also, this is coming out of my own pocket. I can't be doing with getting caught, only got 6 more months on restriction.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlperkins001 wrote:
there can be a variety of ways,
1) 4 washers between the airbox and carbs
2) 4 washers between the carbs and engine
3) ECU/CDI restriction.
4) throttle stop. (your throttle will only move a little bit)

... these are the only ones i know.

i de-restricted my 600 hornet when my parents were on holiday. (i had the same dad issue)

if its a older carburetted model the most common way is inlet blades.


Was yours done with an FI kit?

"Inlet blades" doesn't refer to the washers, it refers to these little plastic tubular bits them put inside th carbs, above the diaphragm, to stop the throttle slide opening all the way!
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeCBR wrote:
I'm actually getting mine done though, one, to see what a thou will be like restricted, and two, i want the certificate so i can shove it in some traffic coppers face when they ask. Also, this is coming out of my own pocket. I can't be doing with getting caught, only got 6 more months on restriction.


There is no legal requirment for a certificate.

You may as well just ride unrestricted and knock yourself a certificate up in MS Word at home and save yourself £200.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeCBR wrote:
Awesome, thanks for the info people. MarJay my dad knows fuck all haha, he thinks it's restricted now, when it's not actually getting done till next week, the only reason i told him it's been done is so i can ride it.


I bet your dad knows more than he lets on. Let me just clue you in on something it took me a little while to learn, and some people take longer to learn it than others. It is this:

You don't actually know it all when you're 18-22. You might think you do, but you don't. I can prove it too!

Anyone who refers to their dad as a cunt (censored or not) doesn't really know as much as they think...
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad knows F all about bikes, honest, last thing he rode was a scooter back in the late 70's lol. He thought that was fast and told me he didn't have the balls to lean it. Not being funny with you MarJay, but you don't know my dad, he thinks constantly rebooting the computer fixes everything...
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the bike is new and restricted from new iirc Kawasaki don't charge for it and don't issue a certificate as such.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:52 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike isn't new, second hand, i have to get it restricted cos' of my license. Still got 6 months left. Kwaka dealer said they'd fit it, but not remove it..
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya George, it was a bit naughty & disrespectful calling your dad the C word in an earlier post. When I bought my 1st bike, a yammy 50 at 12yrs old (quicker than most 50cc peds now) & my da seen me driving around the roads with no insurance. The 'mad c**t' as I called him at the time tried to stop me driving by chasing & blocking me with his car. I went sliding down the road on my snot & escaped before he caught me but I got battered later. That was 32yrs ago so all dads are still the same.

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if I knew my son was a capable, experienced rider driving a powerful bike on the road but the fact that your dad thinks you need to slow down speaks volumes.
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PostPosted: 05:30 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeCBR wrote:
i want the certificate so i can shove it in some traffic coppers face when they ask. Also, this is coming out of my own pocket. I can't be doing with getting caught, only got 6 more months on restriction.


You may think that your dad is stupid but I reckon if you 'shove it in some traffic coppers face' then they won't be quite so naive. They will have a pretty good idea of how a restricted should perform in relation to an unrestricted Z1000 and will probably see straight through your scam.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

So negative. Have been pulled a few times when i was on the Bandit, that was unrestricted but i had a cert, although they never ask for it, and it was a traffic copper the first time, then an undercover.

I can understand a bike cop seeing through it, but apart from that, you're just being really picky.
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