Yamaha TZR 50

[Archon]

I'm thinking of getting one of these next may/june, and was wondering if anyone has heard much about them. I know that they do 30mph restricted (as most 50cc bikes/mopeds do), but what about derestricted? Do they have a kickstart aswell as an electric start? I also want to know how they compare to Derbi Sendas and GPRs and Aprilia RS50s, in terms of appearance, reliabilty, performance and storage (ie. is there under-seat helmet storage?)

One last thing: out of the four bikes mentioned, which one would you buy and why? And would you get it new or used?

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out.

[zaknafien]

Um I’m pretty sure no one on here has ever ridden a TZR50.

And out of them all I’d choose none, I’d wait and get something bigger. If I was forced to get one though I’d buy the cheapest dog of a bike I could because as a learner I’d be bound to crash it at least once.
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02 Firestorm.

[McJamweasel]

TBH I wouldn't buy any new 50, but especially not a faired one. Its quite likely that you will drop it and cause mucho damage thats expensive to repair.

I suggest that you buy an old crosser instead - it won't cost as much to buy and insure. They have the bonus of no fairing to break when you drop em as well.

Save your cash, pass your test @ 17 then buy a 250/400.
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[Archon]

Is there any particular model of crosser that you'd reccomend? And please don't tell me not to get a 50 and to wait till I'm 17 to get a bike. I've decided I'm getting a 50 when I'm 16 and that's final.

[Robby]

an old DT50 or TS50 or something similar will cost about 300-400 quid and not lose any value in a year. They can still be derestricted to give about 45 (genuine) mph.

[zaknafien]

If you’re going to get one get a cheap DT50 or something.
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[Archon]

I might consider getting a used DT50, but I'm going to have this bike for around 18 months, so I don't want one that looks like total crap. If I want to get one that's 2-3 years old and in good condition, it looks like I'll have to pay about £1,400. If it's going to cost that much, I may as well just pay a little bit more and get a used Senda.

[Rob]

Buy a 50 at 16, but dont spend too much cos at 17 you WILL want to take your test and ride something bigger!!....
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Love is 1050cc

[Robby]

18 months? are you on some kind of funny time?

At 17 you get a 125. Any 125 is better than any 50.

Go for a 15 or 20 year old DT. Even if you blow the engine up and get it rebuilt at a garage your only spending 200 quid on it.

[Dr Nick]

Get an MT5, they're way better than DT's or TS's and you can put an H100 engine straight in they fit on the mountings on the frame, A mate of mine has one with a 65 kit, lots of power loads of fun does bout 60.

https://www.myhondamt5.cjb.net

A good website to learn about them.
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is that it

[Archon]

Thanks for the help but I've pretty much decided on a used Senda now. They're one of the fastest 50s around (or so I'm told), and they're apparently very easy to ride.

[Dr Nick]

Senda's are Bullshit, most of them have been blown up and their like a 51 reg. And who the fuck is Derbi????????. Get a Senda if you want an unreliable shit heap. Get an MT5 if you want a good fun bike with a reliable name and easy to get parts.
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[McJamweasel]

Derbi a very old company with a very good GP racing pedigree.
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[Robby]

I did my CBT on an MT5. Most arse bike anyone could ever want to ride.

However a friend of mine has a derbi senda, which I rode around a car park a bit. A bit faster, lighter, looks better, and stoppies very nicely. I'm not a stoppie kind of person.

Oh and it takes decent rubber as well - 130/70 17 back and 100/90 17 front as I remember.

[ANTHONY T]

Keeping your 50 for 18 months is totally acceptable, i have had mine for 16 months (exactly 16) and it does not look as though i am getting a different bike until september

If you want to keep it for a while don't worry about what other people say and just do it, also get the senda it is very nice and won't blow up if treated correctly.

[zaknafien]