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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 15 Jul 2009    Post subject: Eco town parking Reply with quote

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Not sure how correct it is, but if anything like correct it would pretty much make any houses in these eco towns almost unsellable.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/5834205/Want-to-live-in-an-eco-town-It-will-cost-you-13000-to-park-there.html

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PostPosted: 19:01 - 15 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The guidance, which has been obtained by the Conservatives, urges "car-free development" which involves "limited parking, separated from the residential areas".

It continues: "A parking space in one of the car parks at the edge of the development must be rented or purchased (at a cost of approximately £12,500 plus a monthly management fee). This cost is entirely separate from the cost of buying or renting a home"



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PostPosted: 19:12 - 15 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are hundreds of thousands of homes like that already, new builds, and the reason a lot of good housing has been knocked down, should have parking for two vehicles at the property.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 15 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a big buzzword at work.

Unfortunately it's all seen from a simplistic viewpoint. Living in an eco town would be fine if you worked there, made enough money to pay for the hideous house price and utilities (anything green is twice the price of the standard alternative), and never had to leave to visit people.

The more cynical in the office have suggested that maybe, just maybe, we should get reliable public transport infrastructure in place before forcing people to rely on it. Doesn't wash.

Labour government in it's third term, and heading out the door soon. This means lots of ideas rushed through, and no cohesion at all. Also completely out of touch with the real world. According to them, the population believe in climate change and want to make big changes to their lifestyle to stop it happening.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 15 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the big deal? A lot of new developments already charge for a parking place, mine cost £10k to buy plus cleaning & maintenance which forms a part of my service charge. I didn't even think it'd be a freebie.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi, you are in London where prices are hideous but pay is similarly hideous to cover it. These eco towns are new towns, aimed to reduce travelling and with little chance of any real local employment (hence low pay).

Large part of the population wouldn't want to live in somewhere with stuff all parking (just look at all the city centre flats that are now unsellable, prices have dropped so anyone with enough money to afford one can afford something less restrictive).

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PostPosted: 09:21 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Or to put it more simply, would you have bought your current place / parking spot if it meant getting a lower paid job and the place was nowhere near the city environment you like.

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PostPosted: 11:13 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That doesn't make any sense.

I can understand not having a car if you live in the centre of a city where the work is on your doorstep. One must assume these are going to be like new towns, filled only with residential properties. It says nothing about employment or public transport, so how do people get to their place of employment given the parking charges are so high.

It's just illogical. Maybe the report missed something out, are offices or work places also going to be built within the eco-towns?

Frankly, the idea of living amongst a crowd of self-satisfied asparagus chewing, bio-yoghurt swilling, new age pseudo-hippy tosspots mewing smugly on about how small their eco-footprint is, I'd rather take my chances with global warming or what ever horror supposedly looms in our future.

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PostPosted: 11:26 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
That doesn't make any sense.


The claim is that everyone / think will be within 10 minutes walk of a bus / train / tram stop. Not really much use if you need multiple changes to get to another town to do any work in.

pa_broon74 wrote:
Frankly, the idea of living amongst a crowd of self-satisfied asparagus chewing, bio-yoghurt swilling, new age pseudo-hippy tosspots mewing smugly on about how small their eco-footprint is


Please tell us what you really think rather than holding back.

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PostPosted: 11:58 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
I'd rather take my chances with global warming or what ever horror supposedly looms in our future.


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PostPosted: 20:45 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plan would only make sense to people already living in the centre of london paying £13k for parking.

Come to think of it, I guess thats where the expense account politicians live.

Where I work, a 10k car is a status symbol.

There are a few housing estates near me which have a flavour of this, trying to encourage people to park round the back, and with shared community walkways at the front.

People just park at the front tho and drive on the pedestrianised bits Smile

On tv james may had a plane community, how about a biker housing estate. Cars take up so much space but bikes dont.

Of course this isnt really a sensible suggestion in the real world.

Creating microeconomies where people work and live and socialise, is a nice idea, but would be quite limiting really.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
pa_broon74 wrote:
I'd rather take my chances with global warming or what ever horror supposedly looms in our future.


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PostPosted: 22:35 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

when they called it global warming it sounded great

we thought warmer weather and assumed dryer weather

we are actually getting climate change, ie warmish wet weather

or it could just be convenient bollocks to try to get us to spend less on oil products, which gives us a large trade deficit to countries we dont always get on with

buy a new car (made here) rather than buy more petrol that comes from someone in another country

i tend to think its better for the planet, to give cars longer lives, considering the amount of resources needed to make one. much higher than the consumption of resources in using it
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 16 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is nothing new, with the housing a parking/ public transport, My Dad helped plan and design ( for his many sins) Runcorn New town and Cantril Farm amongst others, all based on people being able to walk, with areas for parking, ringed by public bus routes to central shopping areas. Shared space roads with high planting of vegitation to reduce speeds. Just the cost for parking was free.
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