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 Posted: 11:01 - 16 Jul 2009  Post subject: Is this an 'I'm not a paedo' tax? |
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https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8153251.stm
Now I think it's difficult for people to protest against this because of the subject matter, people may say 'well what have you to hide?' and 'think of the children' etc.
But the fact there's a cost involved...hmmm my cynical mind is working overtime.
Another way of raising easy funds without much opposition?
| Quote: | Several high-profile authors are to stop visiting schools in protest at new laws requiring them to be vetted to work with youngsters.
Philip Pullman, author of fantasy trilogy His Dark Materials, said the idea was "ludicrous and insulting".
Former children's laureates Anne Fine, Michael Morpugo and illustrator Quentin Blake have hit out at the scheme which costs £64 per person.
The Home Office says the change from October will help protect children.
The measure was drafted in response to recommendations made by the inquiry into the deaths of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002, at the hands of school caretaker Ian Huntley.
Anyone who has "more than a tiny amount" of contact with children or vulnerable adults will have to sign up to the Vetting and Barring Scheme before November 2010.
But the authors, including fantasy writer Mr Pullman, say they have worked in schools for years without ever being left alone with children.
He told the Independent: "Children have never been in any danger from visiting authors or illustrators, and the idea that they should be is preposterous."
Anthony Horowitz - author of the popular Alex Rider series - wrote in a comment article for the paper: "In essence, I'm being asked to pay £64 to prove that I am not a paedophile.
"After 30 years writing books, visiting schools, hospitals, prisons, spreading an enthusiasm for culture and literacy, I find this incredibly insulting."
He added that the database "poisons the special relationship that exists between children and authors they admire".
Only authors who plan to go into schools regularly - once a month or more - will have to be registered.
'Deeply offensive'
Anyone who is barred will go on a separate register and could face up to five years in prison if they try to get work in a job covered by the regulations.
Anne Fine, author of more than 50 books including the Killer Cat series, told the Independent the rules would leave children "further impoverished" and that she would only visit foreign schools in future.
"The whole idea of vetting any adult who visits many schools, but each only for a day, and then always in the presence of other adults, is deeply offensive," she added.
However, a Home Office spokesman said: "The UK already has one of the most advanced systems in the world for carrying out checks on all those who work in positions of trust with children and vulnerable adults.
"From October this year the new Vetting and Barring Scheme will ensure these regulations are even more rigorous."
The Home Office says various new regulations will have meant that more than five million more jobs and voluntary posts - including most NHS positions - will be subject to checks. |
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| Posted: 13:32 - 16 Jul 2009 Post subject: |
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Actually...
It covers any one who wishes to work with kids. It's an enhanced criminal records and back ground check and all part of a wider 'database' of info to be kept on people who work with kids.
This was reported some time ago but fell by the way side for some reason.
I don't agree with the cost and as a child protection measure it's not really effective as it would only catch people who had a criminal record and if they have a criminal record (of a sexual nature) there should already be control orders in place.
I know for us, it's not just a case of doing a check once, you have to do it everytime you move positions or jobs. It's stupid, I've been checked atleast 4 times and I probably should've been checked 4 or 5 times as often.
This is just another example of the government dicking about with legislation to cover up defective or improperly executed existing rules and regs.
One of the auther's pointed out it was essentially him having to pay £64 to prove he isn't a paedophile. He has a point, what happened to the presumption of innocence.
(This reminds me of a conversation I had with a young person... If you are of delicate sensibilities and easily offended probably best not to read on...
Basically, this chap who was 15 at the time was talking about a recent news story about a dodgy scout leader (what else...) He said that if any old man tried it on with him he'd kick their teeth in, I said, it might be the only action you'll get, beggers can't be choosers you know...
Those within earshot were shocked! I thought it was quite amusing...  )
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Looking into it a wee bit more closely (although its not coming into force North of the border.)
It seem's that the new Vetting & Barring Scheme only allows appeals on point of fact and Law. So if some one was to make an allegation, (pissed off neighbour, jilted lover or petulant child) a person would have no course of redress to refute it and could potentially lose thier lively hood and/or career.
This was the part that was reported extensively previously but seemed to fall off the radar...
Also, it overlays the usual CRB checks people have to do so the cost of jumping through that hoop remains in place.
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