Thoughts on crash bungs.

[NSR Mick]

I for one am not willing to spend £40 plus on decent bung's (R&G's for example) when theres a risk of them not preventing damage or in some cases causing more.

Yes I appreciate they can reduce the amount of damaged caused but damage is damage and I'd rather put that £40 towards repairs.

Theres a lot of talk of R&G's being the best but are the cheapo's as bad as people have claimed.

I know it's been discussed before but I thought I'd add a poll this time to guage opinion.
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[Polo]

I do not like them, think they ruin the look of a bike and show a rider lacking faith. IMHO.

If I stack it then I take the financial hit on the chin.
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[Mr Nice Guy]

Where is the option for "Bought bungs 6 months ago, lost them somewhere in house"

[Gazdaman]

Depends on the crash. R&Gs work wonders in a low side. On my gixxer at a trackday they saved everything, truely amazing.

In another low speed spill on the gixxer, I broke a footpeg hanger. Fairings were relatively unscathed.

But on the bandit, I hit a car with the R&G, which bent the frame quite badly.

All depends on the situation. For the money and effort it's saved. It's well worth the cost of the bungs.

And personally, I think they look good.

Gaz

[DidierD]

They came on my bike and when I dropped it wheeling it out in the drive it saved a lot of damage to the RH fairing.

I did however clip a lorry the other day which knocked an indicator off and hit the crash bung which is now bent back a bit. Not sure what I should do about this really

I'm glad they're fitted though because I'm sure my bike will fall over again at some point and the fairing will be fine
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31st March 2008 - Fully converted from four wheels to 2 sets of two wheels

[Gazdaman]

[DidierD]

[Trixie]

Glad to say I haven't had to test mine yet (and am frantically touching wood that I won't have to). I used to have crash bars on my old bike and they were brilliant in the couple of low speed downs I had. The type of accidents meant that the fairing was fubar, but the bars saved the tank and crankcase covers both times.

I've heard of people using modified skateboard wheels as crash bungs, believe it or not. I've not heard how they perform if the bike gets dropped though.

If you've got a birthday coming up soon, why not ask a kind friend to buy you some R&Gs if you're loathe to spend the money out?
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[flimbar]

I've dropped my bike a couple of times and once it blew over in the wind on a concrete surface and I am sure my R&Gs saved me some expensive repairs e.g. cracked engine casing, busted radiator etc.

I like the way the bungs are attached to a bracket that spreads the load across two engine bars going right through the frame.
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[Fnatic]

'IMHO' to me it looks like someone on a push bike with stabelizers. I mean this isn't a bad thing and I am actually considering getting some if I get off this ped I got. Just to learn the basics as I have come off on my ped at low speed and the bungs probably would of saved the fairing.

[veeeffarr]

R&G's arent the most expensive bungs you can buy...

[veeeffarr]

R&G's arent the most expensive bungs you can buy...

[craigs23]

I haven't crashed in 8 years, but having them fitted before I pick up my new bike, just in case.

[ram_doom]

I've tried two sets of crash bungs on my zx6r and theyre nothing but trouble.
The time I crashed with the puig bungs, the right side one totally disintegrated, and whereas, if I'd had no bung, the fairing would have merely been scratched to feck. Instead, the pieces of bung got dragged under the fairing and smashed it, and the engine mount bolt also ended up bent at such an angle, that I had to book it into a bike shop to be sorted.

The left bung is a bracket type, on both the puig, and harris varieties, and in the case of the harris, the bolt head has broken off, and left me with no other option, but to get the engine mount bolt and castellated nut sorted in a bike shop.

Fuck em.
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[bazza]

Make your own from big, fat scented candles. Then, when you crash, you won't feel so bad about it thanks to the aroma therapy effect.


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[nick606]

After watching my mate slide down the road about 70-80mph after he went into a tank slapper after landing a wheelie badly and then able to get back up and ride home. I think thats good going His bike would have deffo been a write off otherwise.

[D O G]

Lowsided the SRAD at around 30mph which had cheapo bungs on it. Yeah, one took a fair bit of pain, but the fairing was not unscathed. Managed to fuck up the clipon, generator cover, rearset and the tail fairing was very badly scratched up. No bung would have saved that.

Personal opinion is that in that crash all the bung did was to stop more damage to the main fairing, which hardly matters, since you can still ride the bike with a fucked fairing.

If I had a new/nice bike I wouldn't bother with just the normal bungs, it would get the lot, engine case proectors, bungs for the forks and swingarm, and big bungs in the traditional position.

I think the fitting of the bungs in the standard place don't do much more than rpeventing scratching of the fairing - one of the least critical areas, but they also encourage those vital engine casings/rearsets from hitting the deck.

So, in summary (finally!) all or nothing.

[Stiffler]

from me

40mph slide down the road. Crash Bung was ground down by over half and badly bent. R&G bent into the side fairing and cause quite a bit of damage, also the fairing around it suffered some contact with the road so bung didn't succeed in it's duty. Alternator cover was ground through leaving engine oil all over the road. Nose cone snapped in two on the side where it hit the road. Gear lever was badly bent and snapped off during attempted straightening. Tail pod and swing arm also scraped on road although damage was minor.

R&G was a bit of a ball ache to remove even with cutting tools.

Tim
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Current Bikes - Kawasaki ZX-6R (636) | BMW G650GS

[G]

R&Gs ZX6 no fairings - not too bad.
R&Gs on SV650 - original design, since changed; bung fell off on impact, useless.
R&Gs on R6 - knackered thread in engine, meaning engine would need to be removed and welded (cost more than new engine).
Cheap crash mushrooms on R6; pretty similar to above.
Unknown make crash mushrooms on SV650 - these were pretty solid, but seemed to work very well - they were a bit worn when I got the bike, managed to take eight crashes from me and were still going when luke sold the bike.

I think that personally most R&Gs are generally designed to be /too/ scarificial; meaning that while they are fine for a small crash, bigger crashes lead to them doing more damage.
It does of course depend on the design - Jay has massive ones on his Hornet and they seem to do well. Similary, other companies presumably make good and bad designs dependant on the bike.
However I think R&G far from deserves the celebrity status it has.

[m0l0t0v]

I'm not too sure what to put. As I've had a lowside o nthe Hornet and the crash bungs (not R&G's) protected everything bar the crankcase cover which was hit when Hornet hit the curb. Apart from that the crash bungs saved everything.

On the time when I flipped over however they did more damage. Took a chunk out of my engine, oil spilt everywhere and since my engine was still running it fucked the internals up. Can't change gear and the clutch is fucked. I need a new engine now.

I think in the end they caused more damage than prevented...
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[Gazdaman]

[MarJay]

[G]

Very much doubt they would have saved all the damage on the blade – as the recent thread shows, generally the footpegs get taken out at least. Personally, I expect that they’d have bent and taken out your mid-fairings, probably just reducing the total damage as there was a little bit sticking out. Whether they would have reduced it by the amount they cost I suspect is questionable. You would have had to replace them, though you can get replacement bits cheaper at least.

I’ve dropped bikes before and not had any significant damage (none if you count on grass), though from stationary or low speed I would agree pretty much any ‘proper’ (not fairing mounted) mushrooms are good for this.
However the fact that the ‘standard’ R&G designs seem to regularly not protect the bike (bend away in any serious crash) and do quite regularly do further damage to the bike makes me question their basic design.
They seem to be designed to handle low speed crashes I’d say with little consideration for faster ones.

One lot I had on the R6 were R&G, the other two or three weren’t . I’m not considering the latter ones used though, which were held in with chemical metal for cosmetic reasons .

I’ve seen the RS250 listed as 160-168kg wet weight; compared to the 675 which is at around 199kg wet weight, that’s not so much of a difference, though maybe enough when sliding down the road. Don’t know about the NSR250.

[Keir]

i dont have bungs to stop damage altogether, i have bungs to limit the chance of holeing an engine casing or similar which would put the bike out of action and me stranded.
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[MarJay]