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 wizzzard World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 13:21 - 30 Dec 2009 Post subject: Should I encourage her? |
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I was stuck between General Bike chat and Dear Aunty BCF for this post but since it is bike related I picked here.
My daughter turns 16 in April and she really wants to get a bike of her own. The only thing making me worry is the fact she has learning difficulties which whilst not overly severe have been enough to keep her out of mainstream school.
I've always encouraged her to try and do everything she wants and not let her disabilities get in her way but I am very worried about her safety. Her balance and coordination have never been brilliant and I'm presently out with her as much as possible on the push bikes trying to build it up.
The CBT itself will be as much of a challenge for her as the full test is for most of us, and because her reading isn't perfect I can't just give her books to read on it unless I'm there to assist with the reading.
My parental instincts tell me to back her and let her be everything she can be but there is still a little part of me that thinks it might be to much for her just yet.
What I'm basically asking is a view from other motorists, people who will have to share the road with her. Encourage or discourage? and if the former is there anything else I can do to help her learn. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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Does she want a 50cc geared motorcycle for fun or 50cc scooter for a transport measure? ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
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She wants a geared but in all seriousness I think an auto would be the best place for her to start. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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I'd guess the balance issue is lessened on a powered bike, seeing as she'd not be shifting her weight left and right just to get the thing moving. Her learning disability might make the theoretical side hard work, but would I be right in thinking that would be more of a time factor than an ability one? As long as her road sense (or the ability to gain road sense) isn't compromised by her disability, I'd say give her your full support. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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I think only you can answer this.
She is your daugther and you will know what's best for her from a parental perspective.
If you have any doubts in certain areas of her ability then get those addressed first while trying not to hold her back too much.
Try and arrange some lessons on the CBT training ground to build up her skills prior to tackling the CBT itself if you think she may struggle.
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I know my daughter will want a bike one day, think i'll get her a crosser and suss how quick she learns to dodge things whilst staying on
She'll get there...just in smaller steps.
And if she can't do the CBT on a geared bike then there's always the cage.
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I appear to have lost the ability to write, reading my post above again
But I do think starting with a geared bike is best. I started on autos off road and had a lot more trouble learning than mates who just got a geared bike to begin with. You get into the habit of not having to release a clutch. |
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My sister is 15, has aspergers, got removed from mainstream school and now attends a hospital unit.
She also wants to get a bike as soon as she's 16, but I don't want her to. It's like. I'm sure she'd be perfectly capable, but what if it breaks down, she can't be left alone until recovery comes, would she even be able to get ring recovery?
Just simple things like grabbing a handful of front would scare the shit out of me if she did get a bike. I don't like the idea of it at all. And the fact that she would be aware that bikes are dangerous especially in the first months of riding, but wouldn't GET it.
I don't know what difficulties your daughter has, but I can't imagine my sister being able to cope just yet. Put it this way, her mental age is 2 years behind. Would you trust a 14 year old?
My thoughts on an issue I meant to post about about 2 months ago.
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Perhaps you can talk about the outcome of a CBT, and that if you and the instructer feels she needs more time then so be it.
Also you could discuss that if she passes you would like her to go out with you for a set time, which will be like another training aid for her, before you sanction her to go alone ...
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Thanks pyro you have a very interesting view and very well put.
I won't go into detail over what is wrong with my daughter but her learning age is much lower than 14 although she is also the most mature and sensible person I've ever met which is where my confusion over letting her ride stems from. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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my freinds son has autism..And he seems be able to ride his 50cc pretty well..he passed his cbt in two days.and now is about to have a go on a dt 50..We got him a cheap 50cc scoot and let him have a go on some private land.He also has a learning disability and was alowed his mother to help him out with the reading etc on his cbt..
So id say yes give her a chance she might (will suprise you) |
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As long as she has the cash to buy, insure, tax, MOT and run her bike herself, then there is little you can do.
If she doesn't have the cash - and you are not 100% keen on the idea of her getting a bike - then this makes it easy for you to dissuade her, without telling her she can't do it i.e. "Yes love, you can get a bike, but you'll have to prove you are responsible enough to get one and the first step to do that is to pay for it all yourself".
Presuming you were going to assist financially to make this happen in the now, then proposing she pays for it all means it will take time for her to save ... by the time she has saved enough, she will be 17 and it is time for her to buy a car and get into p0rno, the whole bike problem goes away!!  ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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Blue: The bike and CBT would be a Birthday present from me. It's not that I want to dissuade her as such, I would love her to be able to ride, more that I'm just concerened for her safety and those around her.
Flip and cov: I shall be calling into the place I took my test on my next day off and inquiring about some pre CBT lessons. If she manages to get through her CBT then she will definately have me in tow for the first few journeys at least
Thanks fiveus. It's nice to see that it is possible to get over these problems, I'll inquire about the help at the CBT as well
Shaggy your a star of epic proportions. I don't know why I didn't think of looking on there for info  ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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