CBR125 haters

Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

I'm completely agree with you, I dislike the bike for a number of reasons but according to RIDE magazine it's the 3rd best selling bike this year.

Only beaten by the R1 as top seller, and the CBR600RR in second.

I'd never have expected that. I just wonder who their target market is, people with a lot of money to spend on a bike they won't keep for very long, and it looks 'odd'.

Not to be sexist, I think it makes a good bike for a woman..

Gaz

instigator · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Karma :

It doesn't look odd.....lets not beat about the bush......its f*ckin' ugly...

I hate to say it, but I'm a cbr125 hater. Simply because.....well, not simply, I hate it for many reasons.

Honda could have done SOOOOO much better.

How much are you paying for a cg125 with a fairing? £2200!!! Shocked

People pretend its something its not, and the number of owners that go on about its top speed, awww, I got 80 out of it the other day......."who cares"?!?!?!?!

Its skinny tyres

The reason why its so good is because I suppose its between the cg125 and aprilia rs125, with a price to match. Not every learner wants to buy a cg125, they want something that looks decent but don't want to pay that much for an rs125.....

But hey, if it brings more people onto bikes, then I'm all for it Very Happy

RS1Banger · Scooby Slapper Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Karma :

they just need more power, my old honda ss50 engined c70 did 75mph, if the engine revved to 15grand, they'd be cool

mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 May 2004 Karma :

TheShaggyDA · Repost Police Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

It's no uglier than any other faired 125 sports look-alike-wannabe :-

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/en/picture/product/CBR125R/Color/prd_bike_red.gif

Looks far better than an NSR125, IMHO

https://www.mcpoolen.se/images/mc-honda-99-nsr125r-rodbla.gif

But to each ther own.
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mattsmith95 · Traffic Copper Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Karma :

A dispatch firm in London has a few of these.

I personally wouldn't use that for dispatch.

So far only seen them in Blue.

Spiral · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Karma :

Best thing about the cbr125 is that it is very useable, what i mean is its light not to fast but can be thrown into any corner and still feel like your in control and is a good learning bike for new bikers.

I fail to see the point of 125cc bikes trying to look and sound like they are 600cc+ bikes, they do not and never will, at least honda is admitting it in its design of the cbr125.
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The Tot · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Karma :

Matt, i've seem the razzing about Kilburn with top-boxes on - seems very narrow and agile Cool

, so it's kinda suited for London. The guy at Slocombes Honda even told me that they sold a batch of 10 to dispatch riders Surprised

. But had i got the CBR, i would have definately got mixed and indifferent reactions from other BCF members (you know who you are - test riding my XR Thumbs Up

). But why not get the XR, a far cheaper and more practical bike in my opinion - oh the NSR has got that vintage 125 racer look which unfortuntately, the CBR doesn't Thumbs Down

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jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

Agreed, I far prefer the NSR over the CBR. Especially in those 2 pictures, no competition in my eyes.

Gaz

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Well I like the look of the CBR, I went into Bransons Honda yesterday and sat on the XR, looked to the left of me and the CBR just looks so beautiful in blue, OK I it is overpriced, but if you have money to spend then why not? At the moment it is most likely to be my next bike.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Oh, I know I could and I was going to do that, but going from a moped to a big bike seemed a bit steep and the running costs would be so much more for an ickle student like me. Smile

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mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 May 2004 Karma :

You will get bored of 13bhp a hell of a lot faster than 33bhp. Moving from a 50 to a 125 4t is probably not really a big step, in anything other than one's a moped and one's a geared bike, imo.

Besides, do you really want to mope about with those red and white sails for another year? Confused

A 4t 250 or something shouldn't be much more in costs than a 125 imo, but not having advanced past the 125 stage yet, I'm not entirely qualified to comment. The only thing in the favour of the 125 would be the insurance group?
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Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

I remember another thread about Somerset Scratchers' choice of 125, there seem to be so many opinions against it..

Having the perspective that you don't have i.e I've already spent a little while on the owning a 125 route. I'm glad I didn't pump several thousand pounds into my 125, as to be honest it's just not worth it.

I'll pump a few grand into an R6 when I'm in that position, but a 125 is just a stop-gap bike, it's just not worth it.

Got a spare £50 note I can burn?

Gaz

instigator · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Karma :

hee hee, loook at all of us, trying to stop people buying 125 "race reps" lol

Buy it, enjoy it then upgrade. Whatever makes you most comfortable on the road basically, screw what I think or anyone else, hell yeah I hate the cbr125, but if you think you're better off with it, go for it. Its got a big following, plenty of forums etc to join.

I'd just test ride firstly Smile

Dom_ · Points Mean Prizes Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Karma :

Anyone who has seen the cbr up close can certify its uglyness and they will also notice how out of perportion things are on it.

No way is it better looking than ANY nsr/tzr/mito/rs/rg

Spiral · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Karma :

Tarts

The best looking 125cc i have seen recently is that hysoung comet GT125 and the new supermoto style ones coming out in 05 look the ticket too Thumbs Up

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instigator · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Karma :

Agreed. The hyosung GT125 is a superb looking bike. But for £300 more, you get 15 more bhp on the same bike frame, same looks, same tyres, just a different engine. The insurance aint a lot for the 250 as well.

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Weed · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Karma :

I was looking at buying a CBR next year, but after having seen one I am now looking at the Hyosung Comet (125)....seems to come out top of the 125 pile to me Thumbs Up

Plus insurance on the Comet is dirt cheap!
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Coming from a different angle I think the CBR125 is actually probably not a bad bike when viewed in isolation, or when compared to the CG125 and the like.

The problem is that is is a new bike so only available at new prices and is compared to the RS125 (basically not greatly changed other than a restyle since it was introduced in 1992) and the Mito (similar siutation but going back to 1990ish). Both the Mito and RS are faster as standard, better handling with far higher quality brakes and suspension. Both can be derestricted easily to land up with a 20mph top speed advantage compared to the CBR125. Both cost far more when new, but both are readily available 2nd hand for far less.

Design quality wise the CBR is similar in many ways to a mid to late 80s 125 like the original TZR. Lots of cheap pressed steel bits and quite crudely finished. The Aprilia AF1, Cagiva Freccia and various Gileras killed off this kind of design back then.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the 2nd hand prices of CBR125s. Personally I expect that the resale values will be quite poor. Probably worth keeping an eye on this one:-

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9806&item=4500060196&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

All the best

Keith
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Raffles_Gentleman Thug · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Karma :

Hmm Everyone's missing the point here.

If someone wants a cheapish capable bike that isn't a CG125, then the CBR125R is a brilliant purchase.

No we may not like the look of it, no its not that fast, no its not built to the same quality as an R1, but for wat it is, it's perfect - an introductory level for those who don't want or can't afford an RS125.

And if someone can afford it for a year, let them.

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