Sparkies - how many plug sockets on one spur?

D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

Quick q, how many double sockets are 'safe' to have on one spur circuit?

There are currently 3, thinking of adding another - will that be OK?

Logic tells me that as long as the total current on the spur circuit is ok (under 13A?) then there should be no probs. Is this right?

Apologies if some terms are wrong, hope you get the picture!!

Thanks in advance.

doggone · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

It's alright until someone else doesn't realise they should be considering the total load they are plugging in!

arry · Super Spammer Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :

https://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/spursocket.htm

Think you're already over fella.

Was trying to get hold of the father in law as he's a part P registered leccy but he's not answering his phone.

D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

Good link arry - thanks.

From looking at it, the sockets are actually on a radial circuit, not a spur.

D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

I'm talking shit again - it is a ring main.

Stalk · Brolly Dolly Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Karma :

you can have one spur from a socket on a ring (single or twin socket) and that is it, unless you start with a fused swich, then you can have your three sockets as the fuse will limit the load to 13 amp

so... ring socket / 13a fused connector / socket / socket / socket

Why not just extend the ring?

fcu

https://www.screwfix.com/search.do;jsessionid=KDINALZSCMPPWCSTHZOSFFI?_dyncharset=UTF-8&fh_search=fcu&searchbutton.x=0&searchbutton.y=0&searchbutton=submit

Cheers
Stalk

D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

Yup, will extend the ring as you say. Ta. Thumbs Up

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hmmmnz · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

hehe,
im anti ring circuits, i think they are extremely dangerous,
it takles 2 faults before a single fault is noticed and
inevitably a ring gets a spur which a few years down the line some one adds another socket thinking its a radial circuit, and then someone sees that there is 2 wires coming off it and think that its a ring so add another spur, and so the madness continues,

i honestly have to say, that next to thailand, the uk has some of the dodgiest wiring ive ever had to work with, and keeping a ring circuit a ring is pretty hard when you are adding a socket,
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number_two · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Karma :

Ring mains are suppose to be safer way of evenly distributing power throughout the circuit but as hmmmnz says "it takes two faults before the first is apparent". Plus they are a bugger to test!

I love the old radials, bring em back i say... At least you know where you stand with them, the 17th doesn't talk so much about them though which makes me wonder if they are gonna bring em back.

You never know where the IEE are gonna take us next...

Part P is good but how you achieve it isn't, i hate the fact that people can become qualified in 6 weeks. I have spent 10 years training and learning and now Train2Gain offers it in 6 weeks, just asking for trouble really.
Also selling DB's to the public from wicks is doing my head in...... Evil or Very Mad

Im gonna stop ranting now before i end up writing masses of waffle....

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robs321 · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 24 Feb 2010 Karma :

Ive been a qualified sparks for over 21 years, my advice would be, do any fucking job apart from it! Fucked knees, fucked back, carpel tunnel syndrome and years of breathing in shit and dust, all the joys of long term electrical installations! Plumbers earn far more money these days!

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hmmmnz · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

i just can't understand why the brits ever went the way of the ring,
i know you can load up your cables more, and use can have less circuits,
but i'd rather have 2 or 3 times as many circuits, it allows for more control, when i was living and working in the uk, i just wired radials if i could, and rings when i was forced in to it,

another thing i hate about wiring in the uk, is that the bloody earth is unsheathed in cables, so you have to carry around earth sleeving,
oh and the earthing systems... how bloody many do you need??
m.e.n. its simple, its reliable and its safe, 1 earthing system.

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nick606 · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Karma :

I would of thought the uk would of been quite high up there with electrical safety. I know its a pain in the arse to do everything that is asked for in the 17th but i thought it cover the user really well in event of a fault.

Although Ive not worked in other countries. Do places like France even use an earth ?