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 Posted: 22:43 - 24 Jul 2009 Post subject: GUYS THIS IS ERGENT!! |
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right, well today i was riding my friends motorbike in a carpark, he was just letting me have a go to get used to gears nice and slowly as i'm getting a bike in the next week and taking my cbt,
the police turned up! and then i rode off and gave it back to my mate but they told me that the worst that can happen is disqualification,
i dont have a provisional yet, or insurance!!!
am i completely fucked? or is there hope,
the officer was very understanding about the situation and i have NO criminial record in any area.?
if someone has been in the same situation or they have friends that have been in it please tell me asap,
smashed_sanity@hotmail.co.uk is my msn, if you have any info feel free to add me an tell me. |
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| Paulington |
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If the police are dealing with it it really isn't urgent, the Police need to get off their arses and actually do something.
However, I imagine if it was an empty carpark they'd be more lenient but if it was quite packed etc etc then maybe they might be a bit tougher on you.
Should have picked some private land instead.  ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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| The Original Muzza |
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What kind of car park?
Private or public highway car park? ____________________ Current Bikes: Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 (2020)
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I'm certainly no expert on the subject but if his bike was taxed then I'm guessing it will be three points for no licence and six for no insurance. If so still three to play with when you get your provisional
I Would hate to have your insurance premiums if it goes that way. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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As long as your mate isn't getting done over for letting you ride without insurance then thats at least one good thing to come from it
Expect nine point and bend over for the insurance company  ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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You'll need this when you talk to the insurance company:
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 Posted: 23:38 - 24 Jul 2009 Post subject: aup nahh? |
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i was thinking that if it gets taken to court im looking at 6 points and small fine
did a check on my fav insurance provider and it went from £375 - £428 lolz sweeet  |
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So the police came and you rode off and gave it back to your mate?
So how did they find out, you phoned them up and told them? ____________________ Journalist, student, egotist.
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| dave1324 wrote: | ohh fuckin hell why does everything in the british law be so fucking complicated, by the time i will be in court i will have a liscence, so technically i had a liscence at the time of the offence just not in my posession... and i told the copper its in the post he said ok, so wont get 3 points for no liscence.. |
I'm not sure how to construe this whether as:
A) You lied to the copper and said you've posted off for a provisional when you haven't actually.
B) You geniunely haven't recieved your licence yet.
If A, you will have lied on a statement which could be construed as perverting the court of justice or you are just wasting police time or w/e which is rather serious. I'm sure if they really wanted to find out they could just ring up the DVLA and see if you have applied for a provisional or not.
If B, I'm not sure if you are even entitled to ride a bike or drive a car provisionally until you have the licence in your possession which means you'd still get done for no licence, not sure of that though. Either way you'd still get done for no insurance as Mister James said it's an absolute offence. I'm not sure if driving without a licence is absolute as well? ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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| Paulington wrote: | | dave1324 wrote: | ohh fuckin hell why does everything in the british law be so fucking complicated, by the time i will be in court i will have a liscence, so technically i had a liscence at the time of the offence just not in my posession... and i told the copper its in the post he said ok, so wont get 3 points for no liscence.. |
I'm not sure how to construe this whether as:
A) You lied to the copper and said you've posted off for a provisional when you haven't actually.
B) You geniunely haven't recieved your licence yet.
If A, you will have lied on a statement which could be construed as perverting the court of justice or you are just wasting police time or w/e which is rather serious. I'm sure if they really wanted to find out they could just ring up the DVLA and see if you have applied for a provisional or not.
If B, I'm not sure if you are even entitled to ride a bike or drive a car provisionally until you have the licence in your possession which means you'd still get done for no licence, not sure of that though. Either way you'd still get done for no insurance as Mister James said it's an absolute offence. I'm not sure if driving without a licence is absolute as well? |
Obviously it is, he was driving, he doesn't have a licence on record = guilty. Nothing he does with his licence after the offence is any good as it will be dated later than the offence (same goes for insurance). As for this sending off for a provisional, he's not done his CBT so it's still no licence. Could be worse though, he could have got taking a vehicle without consent too if his mate said he didn't allow him to drive it in order to save his own skin from being done for aiding and abetting driving without a licence and insurance, easily 6+ points for him! |
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| Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Obviously it is, he was driving, he doesn't have a licence on record = guilty. Nothing he does with his licence after the offence is any good as it will be dated later than the offence (same goes for insurance). As for this sending off for a provisional, he's not done his CBT so it's still no licence. Could be worse though, he could have got taking a vehicle without consent too if his mate said he didn't allow him to drive it in order to save his own skin from being done for aiding and abetting driving without a licence and insurance, easily 6+ points for him! |
Yeah I thought so, cheers. Trying to remember and think about the legal system at gone 3am really isn't working too well.
To put it bluntly, he's going to get a lot of points and quite a fine I imagine and like you said his mate is going to get into trouble either way so they're both in it deep. ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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