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cicatrez
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 02 Sep 2009    Post subject: Converting km/h clocks into mph? help please Reply with quote

Hey guys.
I'm asking this on behalf of a friend who has a mid-90's CB400sf.
Being an Import, the speedometer reading is all in km/h. Can anyone advise me on how to go about converting the dials into mph for it to be legal?
Ideally, probably replacing the dials on the instrument panel to dials that have mph written on them. Does anyone know if the import CB400sf shares dials with a UK bike? so as to buy the same dials in mph?

Or by any other means (aside from marking on the dials where 30,40 etc... is), like a speedo converter.
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 02 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge there is nothing illegal with having a KPH speedo.

Easy fix is some stickers on the glass. You used to be able to get speedo convertors but the price of mechanical ones seems to have gone stupid. It may be possible to get an insert for the speedo but it means pulling it apart.
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PostPosted: 02:04 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a place on the net that sells the dials in mph. I want one for my xr but they don't sell one.

I'll have a look for the site and get back to you.

Edit: clicky

Found it. It seems that they do sell one for your bike.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your bike speedo is cable-driven you can buy a little converter doofer that screws into the speedo then you screw the cable into the converter. It's just a 8:5 ratio gearbox for the speedo. Your needle will then read mph and the odometer will count up correctly too. All you need do then is put a mph sticker on the face (if you want to).
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Think technically the speedo must show mph and kmh (so strictly speaking a mechanical converter to get it to display mph instead of kmh isn't legitimate).

You can get a new speedo face made up. Few people seem to do it. Redial UK used to do it but their web site appears to be down. Trouble with this is that the mileometer will still be in km.

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PostPosted: 09:27 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh it'll still SHOW mph and kmh, it'll just under-read a bit (well a lot Very Happy).

How does this ruling fare with the digital speedos, as they only show one or the other.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any Good?

Geri wrote:
If your bike speedo is cable-driven you can buy a little converter


Try getting one! I brought a new one a couple of years ago for about £15. Browsing ebay recently and average price is around £30 used. I saw one where the biding had gone to £80+!

Seems they haven't been made for a few years.

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PostPosted: 09:52 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
How does this ruling fare with the digital speedos, as they only show one or the other.


They are meant to be switchable from one to the other. Not a recent ruling, has been the case for well over a decade (means that technically some UK models are not actually legal, such as the Aprilia RS250 which had an MPH only speedo).

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PostPosted: 10:01 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the link baldy. Though I'm not sure, those dials looks like its for a much older CB400. my friends one is a '95 and is fairly modern-ish and the dials are completely different.

@Geri
Yeah, I did consider those mechanical speedo cable converter things. Though Ideally, like Ichy said, it would be nicer to get a dial insert. so we could just easily pull apart the speedo cluster and put in the insert.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My NC29 and NC30 both had KPH ONLY speedo's. They were both restricted to 180kph too.

The 29 had stickers put on the glass for MPH markings (30,50,70)
And I de-restricted it at the CDI so the needle would go past 180kph.

The 30 I ran the converter that Geri speaks about. So it de-restricted the bike by making the KPH clocks read in MPH. So when it was showing 100kph. You are actually doing 100mph. And obviously as it would never reach 180MPH. Then it wouldn't hit the restrictor.




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PostPosted: 10:11 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cicatrez wrote:

Yeah, I did consider those mechanical speedo cable converter things.


Its the option I would take. I used one for two years on my imported XV and it worked very well. The only downside is the fact the numbers on the dial are a bit compressed ( can't think of the proper words!)
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that's what he'll have to do.
but where to buy them? they hardly seem around on ebay. and like another person mentioned, the price seems to have sky rocketed these days
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are at least three on ebay at the moment, just expect to pay £25-£30.

If your in the slightest bid artistic then there is no reason why you can't paint the one on there. You still have to pull it apart but a bit of careful painting and some transfers and you can have MPH and KPH.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 03 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a blue one up until recently and sold it on the bay for about £12,wish i had held on to it now seeing as the prices are going up.I used a stick on MPH sheet at first and then the converter on my gullarm.
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