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taz4626
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: nsr125 turn in road is it possible? Reply with quote

hi guys ive got myself a cbt and a nice nsr125 which i love to bits, however im looking at doing my a2 (restricted license) . The only thing i cant seem to manage to crack is the turn in the road on the nsr. I managed it easily on my cbt on a sit up straight 500cc bike but even trying to walk the nsr round in the road it still doesnt make it

so basically just after hints and tips for getting the girl round so i can get on and get the license

ps its a stupid manoeuvre anyways lol
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is fully capable of doing it, if people can do it on everything from monkey bikes to goldwings it's doable on anything.

Measure out 7.5m and practice it between there as that is the width you have to do it on the test (Module 1). Try and get it done with more space left each time.

I have a SC125 and I can U-Turn that in about 4m or so, just get out and practice!

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PostPosted: 20:45 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i could do it on an R6 then its almost certainly possible on an NSR.

do it motocross style and tilt the bike, dont lean into the corner.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
if i could do it on an R6 then its almost certainly possible on an NSR.

do it motocross style and tilt the bike, dont lean into the corner.


Dont really understand that, i have trouble doing uturns, do you mean lean the bike and you sit upright as oppossed to leaning the bike and yourself into the turn?

Sorry might be a stupid question.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was always told to tilt the bike the way you're turning, then shift your weight to the opposite end of the bike, giving it a tighter turning circle.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I've found is that it's basically all about balance and trusting your balance at slow speeds. Have you ever been in slow moving traffic (that you couldn't filter past) where you had to be constantly moving forward at a snails pace? When I'm stuck like that I practice going as slow as I can without having to put either foot down.

It seemed to make a difference when turning around in the road as I could now very confidently just turn at an overly slow speed. I know that you have to have a bit more speed than if you were in a straight line but you'd be surprised what you can get away with.

Also, I was taught that if you're doing a U turn and you feel yourself running out of speed just slightly open the clutch and let the tick-over of the engine carry you the rest of the way. It works every time for me.
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 10 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: nsr125 turn in road is it possible? Reply with quote

taz4626 wrote:
hi guys ive got myself a cbt and a nice nsr125 which i love to bits, however im looking at doing my a2 (restricted license) . The only thing i cant seem to manage to crack is the turn in the road on the nsr. I managed it easily on my cbt on a sit up straight 500cc bike but even trying to walk the nsr round in the road it still doesnt make it

so basically just after hints and tips for getting the girl round so i can get on and get the license

ps its a stupid manoeuvre anyways lol


Confused You did your CBT on a 500cc?
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 10 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: nsr125 turn in road is it possible? Reply with quote

kwaker6r wrote:


Confused You did your CBT on a 500cc?


Why not? Perfectly legal, and fairly common if you do a DAS course which includes the CBT.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 10 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: nsr125 turn in road is it possible? Reply with quote

timbstoke wrote:
kwaker6r wrote:


Confused You did your CBT on a 500cc?


Why not? Perfectly legal, and fairly common if you do a DAS course which includes the CBT.


It doesn't sound like he's already taken one, only the CBT, which I'm pretty sure you can't do on a 500, can you..? If it's not part of a DAS course, that is, which it doesn't sound like it was.

Maybe he meant 50cc?
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 12 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find a DSA approved instructor willing to follow you, you can ride a 'busa on just a provisional with no CBT if you want to. The only thing stopping you is insurance - if you're not using their bike, you need it, and if you are, 500cc is probably the biggest they'll let you loose on.
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taz4626
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 15 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did my cbt on a 500cc. they were doing das module one training on the same day so i got taught the ropes then joined in on the module 1 training for free. its not what you know its who you know i suppose lol
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 16 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can wheel your bike round in the road, you can ride it round Smile Think the examiner normally asks you to wheel it round to prove it will fit. Just take it slow, keep your head up and look back up the road to where you wanna go. That's all there is to it.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 16 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, don't look at the curb, don't think you'll hit it, look over at the examiner/where you want to go (usually the same spot).

I found that I did most of the actual changing of direction in the second half of the turn, so times when it looked like I was gonna screw it up I actually succeeded because all of a sudden I'd turned around 100 degrees and was parallel to the curb! So when you practice, just keep going round and only stop when you are an inch from hitting it.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 16 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's quite possible on the NSR.

Find somewhere quiet and practice lots. Then practice a bit more.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 16 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A suggestion since I've been practising on my wee 125 (Honda CM, so entirely different story but the idea still applies): try starting off a good foot away from the curb then start to turn left before making the right hand turn. You see what I mean? In effect this gives you a slightly greater turning circle for the right turn.

As we all know it's primarily confidence, so this trick may give you that. It makes you start the right turn a lot more fully rather than finding you're coming into the middle of the road head on for the curb. After you've found that comfort zone you'll do the turn more naturally straight away.

It should develop into an easy motion with simply turning the handle bars into a fixed position and gliding round. And make sure the head's turned around too like the others said, eyes on the prize, but do it immediately, you'll find your balance in the turn comes better with it too.

Don't get wound up about it when practising. If it's not going great and you feel a bit shaken up and useless just take a break, look at the stars or whatever's up, and come back to it restored and patient.

I've recently read that slow riding will heat the engine up a lot, so if you do as Ste said (which you should) you'll want to take a few breaks for your bike's sake. It states only practise slow riding for a few minutes at a time. Maybe a bit more in cold weather but that's a guess.

Or like Bruce Lee would've said: Be the bike.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 17 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also practice in a parking lot - choose a centre point (a Coke can?) and ride circles around it. Gradually tighten the circle.

My instructor drilled another learn who was having trouble by putting a circle of cones with one cone in the middle and telling us to ride around continuously. As we carried on, he started walking around the circle and kicked the cones closer and closer in.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 18 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for all the good info and help on this one ill keep trying should get there as getting more and more confident on the bike as i ride it to work everyday
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