Pillion on restricted license...

[That-Kid-O]

Hello there all,

Today was the first time I took a pillion on my 125cc scooter and i could feel the difference in the performance.

I am currently looking out for a CBR600FS and I have a restricted license as I am 18 and just wanted to know if the 33BHP 600cc will feel much different to a 125cc scooter for the pillion in terms of sense of acceleration.

I am fully aware that a 33BHP is somewhere between 5-6 seconds for 0-60mph and tops out at about 100mph, I just wanted to know how it would compare for a pillion on a 125cc.

Thanks

[temeluchus]

The restricted bike will be fairly dreadful accelleration wise, and would top out at 90-95 maybe.

It would probably be quicker than the scooter, but I wouldnt expect it to shock.
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[J D]

Temeluchus Have you ever ridden a 125 scooter? Do you know how slow they are? Compare it to a restricted 600 and you will be shocked.
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[temeluchus]

Its been a long time since i slung my leg over anything under 750 to be quite honest!

I rode a restricted diversion 600 for a friend, and it was almost coma inducing.
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[J D]

Trust me bikes restricted to 33bhp are slow but 125 i guess its a 4 stroke scooters are a lot worse

Ive just got myself a 100cc two stroke scooter to get to work on its unbearable
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[Blackwolf]

there is a big differnt between the scoot and the restricted CBR, and you will be shocked again when you de restrict that
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[temeluchus]

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Short answer...Yes
And it will depend alot on how you ride as to whether your pillion will notice.

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[chris-red]

You can quote figures but untill you have done it you will not know.


I went from a Yamaha RXS 100 to a Restricted 600 and the difference was mind blowing. It may feel slow as shit now if I was to restrict it again but then it was awesome.

It was absolutly fine to take pillions with. Bear in mind, you will be more concerned with not killing your pillion than going flat out.


If you are going to do the math do it properly,

It would more be

275kg @ 14.5bhp
and
335kg @ 33bhp

Allowing 150kg for rider and pillion

This is 0.053bhp per kg versus 0.099bhp which is nearly double for the 33bhp machine.

But this is relitively useless considering it would be more to do with torque than bhp for pulling load.
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[lozzypop1]

A 600cc (even restricted) will be much more comfortable to carry pillions on, even the size of the bike makes a huge difference.

I used to take my kids pillion on my 125, and it handled like crap with them on the back, feeling far too top heavy and unstable.

On my 500 it's a world of difference, I can hardly feel them there. The bike is more than capable of handling with the added weight.
My kids are 13 and 14 so not small children but I've yet to take an adult passenger.
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[temeluchus]

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[The Original Muzza]

A 125cc Scootay St3v3, not a 2-stroke sports kicking out 29bhp at 130kg.
While my 600 restricted is no rocket, it can still accelerate quite quickly to 95mph, and that's with my lardy 100kg arse. I've lost a bit of weight now, and the missus weighs roughly 60-65kg so if I were to take her pillion I reckons IF it was doing 0-60 in 6 or so seconds, it would still be able to manage it in 7-8 no problemo, topping out at around 85mph, which is plenty if I'm not wanting to make her cry.

TBH you're not really looking to overdo it when carrying a pillion, unless you've got a small peen and are overcompensating.
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[Tristan.]

Oops, missed your first post Chris, said pretty much the same. Anyway Temeluchus, I'm not gonna bother arguing with someone that thinks doing maths is better than 'anecdotal crap' when talking about how a bike feels to ride, which is shit then goes and works out the bhp per ton without taking into account the riders weight

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