sports 400s pros and cons?

[Rufus]

vfr
rvf
gsx
zxr
fzr

to name some. which of these is considered the best? pros and cons over a 600?

cheers guys
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[MarJay]

con: More expensive than an equivalent 600 of the same year and similar mileage.

Con: slower than a 600

Con: More likely to be shagged.

Buy an SV650. Seriously, the performance is better, insurance is cheaper, its more comfy, easier to get parts for, easier to work on. The handling when new isn't as good as a 400, but most 400's will be fcuked by now. A bit of cash spent on an SV650 will get you a better bike than a sports 400, and it will be easier to live with day to day.
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[Rufus]

hmmmm. do they have a fuel gauge? petty i know but im getting fecked off with bikes that have no gauges. i may just get a bloody 2000-ish sports 6. zx maybe or a gsx.

edit:

or even a 70s cb4. god i love them,
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[craigs23]

Not many pros at all in comparison with what you can get for similar money. A 600 is a more useable, faster, more comfy, newer option to pretty much any 400 available. There are also so much more middleweight options available.

400s mostly appeal to enthusiasts.

[Deckx]

at best your going to get a 15 yo bike

think the days for 400s are over unless "modern classic" is your bag

[Blau Zedong]

400's are pretty and the engines are great fun if you're in the right mood. The bad point is that it's not 1998 anymore and all those cosseted low mileage imports have had a decade of UK winters and idiot owners. Much though I hate to admit it my GSXR750L was superior to the GSXR400RKSP it replaced in every way barring the "trick" factor. An SV650 might have simillar peformance to a 400 but the power delivery is dull as wood and they look awful. A slightly older 600 or 750 is a far better bet.
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[Rufus]

[Blau Zedong]

If it's 15 years old get it on a classic policy. I have three bikes (a 91 GSXR750, a YR5 Yam and my corpse GT200) on fully comp with unlimited mileage. £125 squids. Only downer is you don't accumulate NCB. My 750 costs next to nowt to run.
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[The Original Muzza]

Have noticed a lot of cheaper CBR600F and ZX750 now on the Bay and gumtree. Reckon a CBR600F won't be too rapey on insurance either.
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[Rufus]

well i'm only be spending about 1500-2000 i think as i want some new kit as well, my current stuff is shite.

there are a few tidy SRADs about for about 16-1800, would do me nicely as for some reason i dont get stupidly high quotes for sportsbikes anymore
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[Seb]

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[olionel]

zxr400 - pros: i took one to Turkey and back and had no problems at all

cons: its a bit cramped first couple of days

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[Mystery]

i dunno if its true but some of the older 400's can be tuned up to be faster than the 600's, but depends what you want i suppose
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[Welshd1k]

[Mystery]

[Welshd1k]

on a drag probaly yes. due to the high revving engines. but ona track / road. where us 'real' people use the and put race cans etc on them a old carbed 400 has no chanve vs a modern 600 with fuel injection and much better brakes and syspension ...
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[Blau Zedong]

[Welshd1k]

[Mystery]

[CaNsA]

Most race tuned ZXR400's are pushing out 80BHP.

They are, however, tuned within an inch of their life. And usually get HG replacements every 4 races.

[metalangel]

[craigs23]

[windy12]

If I was looking for an older lighter bike around that cc, am handy with spanners etc and dont mind higher running costs then I would look for either a powervalved 350 Yamaha or the 350LC, the power valve has the higher performance, both handle well. They are so light to ride superb fun, the power valve is the bigger danger as it is much quicker than it feels and turning corners uphill you have to make sure the front wheel has landed again before the next turn.

I cannot imagine you finding a 500cc runner for that money as they are still sought after.

The VF and VFR 400s will cost a lot to rebuild if they blow.

I think in that price bracket what you save on bike cost could be more than blown in a few simple repairs unless you are lucky enough to know the history of a bike sourced locally.

This one for example is in your price bracket:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikesforsale/searchresults/detail/?R=NXGN-7530744&mfy=