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John
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 03 Aug 2003    Post subject: No power:( Reply with quote

Bah...

Tried ona long straight, over a mile...

whatever gear can't get over 30mph Sad

Any ideas?

Thanks
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minesweeper
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 03 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bike? if you have an nsr something must be wrong Confused
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Ste
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 03 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a kawasaki AR125.

It pulled to about 75ish last week and then ran out of petrol Rolling Eyes

I'd start checking stuff like the carb cos i dunno how long that guy had it for and he was fairly blank abouts its years of history
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John
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 03 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

what? Embarassed :@
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 03 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The AR has fairly small ports so should give the piston and rings a fairly easy time. They could have failed, but not that likely (unless you have been reving the engine hard from cold).

Basically first give it a good service. Clean the air filter, clean the exhaust out, put a new plug in, put fresh petrol in, change the gearbox oil and then see how it goes

All the best

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PostPosted: 01:00 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had to switch to reserve at some point, then there's a chance some crap from the bottom of the tank managed to make it's way to the carbs.

Does it feel as though bike is running out of fuel?
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Ste
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err yeah I should probably say that its fixed in that respect now, dunno wot he did and is good for 80mph Very Happy

However it doesnt seem to want to start now... Confused Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was fixed

Dunno what's wrong with it now.

After it was fixed it became quite hard to pull away, had to be very careful with the clutch or it would stall, it wasn't like that before it was fixed, quite strange.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like your carb needs a good clean.

However there are easier ways to clean it that may work.

First off try undoing the drain screw at the bottom, and drain the carb out into a plastic cup or something. Look in the petrol or petroil there for different coloured droplets sitting in the bottom of the cup. If there are any, this is water, and it never helps to have water in your carb.

Also try chucking a bit of redex in the tank and see if that helps it.

If none of this works, get the carb off and give it a good strip and clean.
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John
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took the carb off totally yesterday, cleaned it all out.

Funny thing was the bike didn't seem to be getting any throttle, rolled it along at about 10mph then went into 1st, the engine seemed like it was starting, then just had no power.

I think the powerband has been adjusted by mistake or something?
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

John wrote:

I think the powerband has been adjusted by mistake or something?


Over tightened or something? Laughing

Sorry nothing constructive to add.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

John wrote:
I think the powerband has been adjusted by mistake or something?

Just pop into hein gericke or somewhere and buy a red powerband with blue and white stripes lol Mr. Green Mr. Green Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

John wrote:
I think the powerband has been adjusted by mistake or something?


/me jumps on bandwagon...

Get a racing powerband! They have twice the elasticity and lighter, so your bike will be capable of speeds in excess of 150mph! Razz

Sorry, this is nothing personal "against" you, John...I guess that the heat has melted my brain or something...
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John
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol knock it off Razz

What did happen then? Wink
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone knows

RED WUNZ GO FASTA!
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol shut it Razz

Any __useful__ ideas as what may have happend?

It had very very little power low down, but shot off to 65mph no problems, pulling very hard indeed Very Happy

Then i stalled it and it wouldn't start
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, no!

Green wunz wif Red Stripes go fasta!

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PostPosted: 15:22 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raaaaar!

stfu! Mad








Embarassed Embarassed
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Hex
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you did say a very silly thing, didn't you.

I assume the throttle cable is tight and is working the carb?

When you cleaned it did you assemble the needles, jets etc correctly?
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah they're back right

or were, will check again i tihnk

also what oil does it need? the light comes on if the bike is tipped, so i guess it's low!

thanks
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 04 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Your bike is quite old, and possibly hasn't been used for a while. Water accumulates in the petrol and rusts the tank, and the rust gets into the carb.

I would clean the carb out again and put a fuel filter in. I would also be tempted to drain the fuel tank full, and only put back in the decent fuel (you will probably see "bubbles" at the bottom of the fuel which is water).

Also your AR doesn't have a power valve. Depending on what has been done to it in the past (such as a Micron exhaust) it is quite likely that the power will come in with a bang at high revs. As such you soon get used to slipping the clutch loads when you move off.

For 2 squeak oil just use a decent quality normal 2 stroke oil. I wouldn't worry about using synthetic 2 squeak oil in it. Not the 2 squeak oil will go in a tank, the gearbox has its own seperate oil.

All the best

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John
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 05 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Keith!

The oil light is telling me the 2 stroke oil is low then? Does it use any other oil/need any other oil changing apart from the gearbox oil?

Also, any ideas why when the bike was doing a maxium of 20mph hardly any slipping of the clutch was needed, it'd pull away easy with almost no revs.

How would you suggest that the tank is emptied? Also, where can i get a fuel filter, where would it go, and would it affect performance?

Thanks Smile
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John
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PostPosted: 03:19 - 05 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a few more questions,

Do you know where the adjustment for the idle rpm is?

Are there any other adjustments? I was told there was one for the amount of air getting in, or something similar?

What make spark plug should I buy, or doesn't it matter?

And finally, how can i clean out the exhaust, and is it a good idea?

Thanks very much! Smile
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