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Would you wear a lid if it wasn't compulsory?
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Would you wear a lid if it wasn't compulsory? Reply with quote

I've quite enjoyed pootling around in my shorts and t-shirt on the bike recently. It definitely beats sitting baking clad head to toe in bike gear but then I've only really been on urban roads.

It got me thinking whether or not I'd wear a lid or not if I didn't have to. I think I would as the black visor definitely helps me perv at the scantily clad women that are around.

Would you wear a lid if you didn't have to?
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup but probably to keep the bugs and crap out of my face more than anything else. Just riding around with the visor open a crack I eat a ton of bugs.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: Would you wear a lid if it wasn't compulsory? Reply with quote

Joe wrote:

It got me thinking whether or not I'd wear a lid or not if I didn't have to. I think I would as the black visor definitely helps me perv at the scantily clad women that are around.

Would you wear a lid if you didn't have to?

Sat in traffic today ... black visor down.
Facing forward (with a slight tilt to the left) as far as the stunning blonde bint in her car beside me was concerned.
However she was not aware that I was actually staring right down into her drivers area, as she spent a good 45 seconds hoinking up her summery skirt and adjusting her knickers.
I believe she had a hollywood from what I could see.

Only happens once or twice a year ... but on that basis alone .. Yes, I would wear a lid.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all the time, at least.
I mean, its a rediculouse law.
As a qualified driver / rider, I should be able to make assessements of risk like whether to pull out infornt of a 40 ton artc, or whether its safe to do 70 on a wet twisty road etc etc etc/
so WHY am I so completely stupid and incompetent as to NOT be able to work out for myself where and when a hat would or wouldn't be apropriate?
I mean, nipping to the shops, all 20 & 30mph limits... why do I need a hat?
Kids on BMX's are going faster than me and taking more chances, but law doesn't tell THEM they have to wear a helmet, does it?!
So its NOT always apropriate, and on a hot day, round town?
NOT sweating and percolating a migreane in a hat, MIGHT actually make me more comfortable, more aware and a safer rider who doesn't NEED a helmet, as at the end of the day, they only 'work' if you crash, dont they?
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.ridetodie.com

I shall prob get karma raped but really does anyone go out thinking hmmm I'm going to crash today so I'll wear my protective gear - would be easier but no. I agree it must be lovely to ride in t shirt and shorts with no helmet but the buzz of that against the potential injuries coming off at even slow speeds dictates that the protective gear is the way to go (for me anyway).

I cringe everytime I see a biker or even a ped boi without gloves, or in a t shirt or shorts. There's enough gear available, there must be something that's comfortable in this weather.

(I removed my Darwin's law comment as with hindsight I thought it was a bit "wrong")


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PostPosted: 18:40 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

willis1337 wrote:
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Darwin's law.


Not wearing a helmet isn't stupidity.

Riding like an absolute cock and not wearing the gear is.



I put maybe down, as there'll be times I wouldn't wear a helmet, like pootling down the the shops.

But if I was going on a motorway, doing long travels or going for a spirited ride then I would.

Winter time I'd probably wear one all the time, as it helps keep the cold out.



The other day I saw a Sikh biker, wearing a black turban, black sunnies of some sort, all plain black leather, on a black cruiser style bike. He looked awesome. I was jealous. I wish I didn't have to wear a helmet 24/7 on the bike.

But like I said, there'd be times I would, and times I wouldn't. I'd wear sunglasses instead. Cool
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wearing a helmet in thailand is very very optional. I tried it without just to go round to the shop and stuff and it was great fun. You suddenly feel like you have infinite head room, rather than like a tall guy in a small car with his head pressed up against the roof the whole time.

As others have said, wind protection is very nice with a full face helmet and you never know what might happen...
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For bimbling around town I'd happily forego a lid, but any prolonged 40+ riding I'd want one.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not wearing a helmet isn't stupidity.

Riding like an absolute cock and not wearing the gear is.



Not necessarily people seem to think you only come off if you dicking about or going 100mph.
People seem to forget about all the other road users out there just waiting to pull out into you/ reverse over you/ shunt you/pull into you. Sometimes its not your mistake that leaves you fucked its somebody else's.
just had a mate taken out by a car driver on the way home from the scotch piper they looked directly at him then pulled out taking his back wheel out as he passed. we were doing sub 30 and his lid was a right mess with a couple of deep gouges out of it.

People also seem to forget that if they come off there not just going to slide down the perfectly flat road there's curbs trees and other solid objects to contend with including the road and your bike. Even if you hit them with your head at Sub 10mph your DEAD at least with a lid the survivability speed gets taken up to around 40mph.


It will always comes back to the "we should have the right " argument which is fair but should pedestrians/ kids /car drivers have the right not to witness some biker splattering his brain over the deck and dying in front of them if a simple helmet could have prevented it. ??
Trust me watching somebody dying in-front of you is not something you just walk away and forget about in a hurry. Thumbs Down

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PostPosted: 19:33 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberglass wrote:
People also seem to forget that if they come off there not just going to slide down the perfectly flat road there's curbs trees and other solid objects to contend with including the road and your bike. Even if you hit them with your head at Sub 10mph your DEAD at least with a lid the survivability speed gets taken up to around 40mph.

Coming off without a lid doesn't mean you're automatically going to die, especially if only going as fast as cyclists go.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

In short YES

I wear a helmet when I ride bicycle.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would. Somewhat brings comfort to me Laughing
Recently twated my head badly at work - which hurt like a Biatch at 0mph.. Imagin that going 30 Confused
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd probably go without a lid, but with glasses or eye protection for short trips. No more than ~30mph (probably equivalent to cycling speeds). Anything more than that would need to use the lid.
Any dual carriageway or motorway etc needs full kit IMO

[edit : for the record I've had a potentially serious "off" some years ago when riding offroad on a mountainbike, and I'm fully aware that a helmet saved me from serious injury. However, I was riding a severe downhill section, and I was fully prepared for it.]

As for Silkys recent experience, I've been riding since 2005 and never had the eye candy opportunity like that Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would still wear a lid if it wasnt the law. For a few reasons really, the major being bugs etc (Had a massive moth hit my visor last night, looked like a had a really snotty sneeze but on the outside Laughing ) But also, like robyarr, my right eye gets incredibly watery even just at walking speed so i'd be pretty screwed on a motorbike Laughing
Plus you never know when you might have a little spill and wish you had your lid on Hurt

Same goes for wearing gear aswell i suppose, i've kinda got used to wearing it now so it doesn't bother me. We very rarely get hot weather anyway Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 19:42 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Coming off without a lid doesn't mean you're automatically going to die, especially if only going as fast as cyclists go.


True but is it really worth taking the chance with your life. Ever had organise a funeral for a family member?... its not the jolliest of things to do.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I last rode without a helmet on a Greek island 3 years ago, to be honest I never ever thought about it. The woman in the hire shop asked if I wanted a helmet and I said 'no', well at 35kph on a 50cc moped around town I wasn't overly concerned.

I also rode my wife's cousin's 125cc in the mountains around his home, afterwards I thought it a little foolish, not because of the speeds but because of the terrain.

Here in the UK where the law is enforced we don't have a choice, but if we did then I probably would for most journeys.

As I mostly use my bike for my 40 mile motorway commute, and visiting bike riding friends it seems the appropriate choice, for a 5 minute journey to the shops, I'd still walk.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always would wear my lid as it protects my very delicate skull from being caved in if I come off the bike for any reason Rolling Eyes

Wear all my gear all of the time but in really warm weather the armoured pants sometimes get ditched for jeans....

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PostPosted: 20:01 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberglass wrote:
True but is it really worth taking the chance with your life. Ever had organise a funeral for a family member?... its not the jolliest of things to do.

You shouldn't ride a motorbike then.

Some people (like you) choose to ride a bike despite how dangerous they can be, whilst other people can't understand why anyone would choose to take a risk like that .

Some people would choose to ride a bike without wearing a lid despite how dangerous that can be, whilst other people (like you) can't understand why anyone would choose to take a risk like that.

People should be allowed to make their own decisions.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, coming of a push bike at 30 nearly killed me when some bugger flung a door open on me at the exact moment a bus pulled the dodgiest overtake of the decade.

Ribs smashed to feck, face battered on floor, top of head hit a bus. Ventilator required. Much time in hospital. How I survived I don't know, but glad I had my helmet cause that could have turned out a ruddy lot worse than it did.

It doesn't matter how good I get at cycling / motorcycling, there's always some daft bugger out there that will really screw me up with their own stupidity.

But then I am the guy who refuses to break the speed limit and wears all the gear, all the time. I am aware I am an exception on this forum Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you always wear a helmet when cycling after that?
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did before, did after, unfortunately didn't protect my face. Took about 8 months to heal over. I don't think its noticeable to much but the right side of my lower lip is still shaped funny. After 7 years I am figuring that ones with me for life. Glad its not worse.

I am incredibly confident in my cycling abilities, always have been. Its the ability / stupidity of other road users that always worry me.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But then I am the guy who refuses to break the speed limit and wears all the gear, all the time. I am aware I am an exception on this forum


Nope, i'm the same really. I wont do stupid speed but sometimes 30 zones become a bit redundant when theres no-one around. But even then i may only do 40 Laughing I also wear all my gear with possibly a HI-viz when its dark, its amazing how many people dont see you when its daytime with your lights on, i'm not taking any risks when its dark Rolling Eyes

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Wow, thats a lot to happen on a push bike! how long was before you were back on the bike?
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the 60's my uncle went down the local shops for a loaf of bread on his motorbike. The shop was literally two blocks away, it was Autumn. He came off doing less than 30 (prob due to wet leaves),with no helmet on. He hit his head on the kerb and was in a coma for two years.

Wear a helmet.
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