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kawashima
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: different bike names (RD350 / RZ350 etc) Reply with quote

RD350 in uk / RZ350 in japan
RD500 in uk / RZV500 in japan
Burgman650 in uk / Skywave650 in japan
Why do you think they change names in areas?
Is "Sky wave" strange for a bike name do you feel?
Regarding RD, I feel it old models bike names compared to RZ.
I heard Z of RZ means "liquid cooled", and RZ is successor of RD. But recently I learned RZ is called RD in uk and I wondered why.
Regarding Skywave, I feel it's like nissan micra / march. I suppose japanese name is so silly sounding for native english speaker, but do you think so?
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RD was claimed to stand for "Race Developed".

There are some major differences between some models. For example the RD500 and RZV500 had different frames (from memory).

Some names do not go down well in other languages. Nissan Cedric and Nissan Gloria would be laughed at in the UK.

Toyota MR2 apparently didn't sell well in France and they wondered why until it was pointed out that MR2 was MR Duex in French, which would be pronounced like the French word merde.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:40 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worst example off the top of me head was the Revere (UK)/Bros (elsewhere), at a time when those two blonde pillocks were at the nauseating height of their fame.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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RD was claimed to stand for "Race Developed".

There are some major differences between some models. For example the RD500 and RZV500 had different frames (from memory).

Some names do not go down well in other languages. Nissan Cedric and Nissan Gloria would be laughed at in the UK.

Toyota MR2 apparently didn't sell well in France and they wondered why until it was pointed out that MR2 was MR Duex in French, which would be pronounced like the French word merde.

All the best

Keith

Thank you. I didn't know that RD500 has steel frame and RZV500 has aluminium frame. It's reasonable to change bike names of bikes which has differences like this. This must be pros for users when they buy from e-bay.
Cedric and Gloria... We don't have naming sense in English!
I translated merde with google and I understood now.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

27cows wrote:
Worst example off the top of me head was the Revere (UK)/Bros (elsewhere)


At least the Bros was chain drive and the Revere shaft drive. Not sure how much was shared between them.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:23 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I park beside a Bros at work, there isnt much difference at all in our bikes, front brake calliper is different (mines sliding, the bros is opposed), very slightly different body work, other than that there is really very little obvious difference.

I think the bros is an alloy frame, my revere is steel.

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edit: didn't even realise the bros was chain drive, he always parks up beside a wall.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bros/Revere /Hawk(US)had different frames swingarm ,suspension brakes,fuel tank,seat,bodywork ,bars or to put it another way they shared an engine block -but were somehow very similar
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will have to have a closer look at the bros next time I see it!

Out of interest the engine in the old transalp 750 looks very similar, anybody know is a swap possible?

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PostPosted: 19:00 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Think it has been done for the Bros a few times.

The Bros always seems far narrower than the Revere.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:01 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Out of interest the engine in the old transalp 750 looks very similar, anybody know is a swap possible?


No I think that one is based on an VT500

you want one from an Africa Twin or a PC800(US) tourer but I think they are taller and you have to alter the tank

I think the Africa Twin swap has been done Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on cars, I hear the Mitsubishi "Pajero" didn't sell too well in certain Spanish regions due to slang.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep, and even without slang the Chevy Nova didn't sell well in Spanish speaking countries. After all would you buy a car called the "Vauxhall No Go".

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PostPosted: 20:04 - 10 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitsubishi Pajero = Wanker in Spanish (Latin Am), thus called a Shogun in some regions

Ford Pinto = Small Penis (Brazil)

Vauxhal Nova = Doesn't go (Spanish), thus Opel Corsa (Race in Italian)

Mazda La Puta = Bitch / Whore (Spanish)

Also, I still can't believe Mazda managed to sell a people carrier called a Bongo Friendee - I mean what does that even mean?

On a related note, when Arsenal were sponsored by SEGA, any Italian watching just saw the word WANK scrawled across their shirts!
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