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 Posted: 16:57 - 10 Dec 2009 Post subject: Today's 'stuff' getting old. |
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Was thinking about some of today's 'stuff' like cars & gadgets, will they ever be seen as old fashioned or old looking? Around 50 years ago when they had those Cadillac cars with the pointy wings, people probably thought that you can't get any better. But now we look back & they're so old fashioned. But with today's cars/gadgets, i just can't see that happening.
I just can't imagine someone in 20 years time looking back at a Ferrari Enzo or a Veyron, thinking they look old fashioned. Even against the future cars we see in movies today, they hold up well. Same with our gadgets. We've got phones were we can watch movies & control everything with a finger, how more advanced can you get? Obviously there's still a huge amount that can be done but i can never see something like the iphone type phones becoming old fashioned like the Nokia 3310 which at the time, were amazing.
Same with gaming, i can't imagine our current next gen gaming being so old that it's almost like comparing an xbox with an Atari 2600.
I'm in the present so i'm obviously going to think all this, just like they probably thought back when they first had T.Vs, how could that of got any better? |
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Think all those things will look old and dated in a short time.
Why have a bulky phone to have a screen if someone can package up a 3d projected display? That would make any current phone look bulky and old.
Cars will look old. Possibly because they are still styled while normal cars just become more and more like washing machines (ie, boring things that do a job and less and less people care what they look like).
As to games, I expect that a full immersive 3d game will make Call Of Duty look about as advanced as Pacman. In actual style not sure that much has really happened since Doom in 1993 (sure graphics have massively improved as computers have come to support it, but the basic style is much the same).
To an extent what surprises me is how little things have really changed in the last 15~20 years. The big jumps were then, the only extra we get now are refinements of old ideas.
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I'm sure the fact that all new bikes at the moment are so angular looking will mean that in the future we'll look back and think they belong to a specific era...and hence be dated.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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| Quote: | Was thinking about some of today's 'stuff' like cars & gadgets, will they ever be seen as old fashioned or old looking? Around 50 years ago when they had those Cadillac cars with the pointy wings, people probably thought that you can't get any better. But now we look back & they're so old fashioned. But with today's cars/gadgets, i just can't see that happening.
I just can't imagine someone in 20 years time looking back at a Ferrari Enzo or a Veyron, thinking they look old fashioned. Even against the future cars we see in movies today, they hold up well. Same with our gadgets. We've got phones were we can watch movies & control everything with a finger, how more advanced can you get? Obviously there's still a huge amount that can be done but i can never see something like the iphone type phones becoming old fashioned like the Nokia 3310 which at the time, were amazing.
Same with gaming, i can't imagine our current next gen gaming being so old that it's almost like comparing an xbox with an Atari 2600.
I'm in the present so i'm obviously going to think all this, just like they probably thought back when they first had T.Vs, how could that of got any better? |
I would love for you to come back and read what you've written in 20 or 30 years time. You would probably feel quite silly. Things improve all the time and the more time goes on , things are getting better exponentially. |
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| Chris750 wrote: | | Quote: | Was thinking about some of today's 'stuff' like cars & gadgets, will they ever be seen as old fashioned or old looking? Around 50 years ago when they had those Cadillac cars with the pointy wings, people probably thought that you can't get any better. But now we look back & they're so old fashioned. But with today's cars/gadgets, i just can't see that happening.
I just can't imagine someone in 20 years time looking back at a Ferrari Enzo or a Veyron, thinking they look old fashioned. Even against the future cars we see in movies today, they hold up well. Same with our gadgets. We've got phones were we can watch movies & control everything with a finger, how more advanced can you get? Obviously there's still a huge amount that can be done but i can never see something like the iphone type phones becoming old fashioned like the Nokia 3310 which at the time, were amazing.
Same with gaming, i can't imagine our current next gen gaming being so old that it's almost like comparing an xbox with an Atari 2600.
I'm in the present so i'm obviously going to think all this, just like they probably thought back when they first had T.Vs, how could that of got any better? |
I would love for you to come back and read what you've written in 20 or 30 years time. You would probably feel quite silly. Things improve all the time and the more time goes on , things are getting better exponentially. |
Hence the last sentence.
I know things will improve but by the car example i meant would people look back at the Enzo for example like we look back at a 1950's Cadillac, would it really look that old in the future? I used the supercars as an example as your everyday cars age very badly, just look at something like a VW Golf.
Today, we have a more realistic look on what the future will be & even with all the gadgets we see in movies, today's stuff doesn't seem to age /that/ badly.
Which is why i can't see some of today's gadgets being looked at like we look at 2ft mobile phone from the 90s. Even if they did have projected screens. Apart from the visual difference, would there be much in what you can do with a mobile phone? |
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| daemonoid wrote: | | Hetzer wrote: | The internal-combustion engine is a piece of brute-force primitive junk. I don't think it can be much longer before we have solid-state anti-gravity drive, powered by zero-point energy.
iPods, mobile phones etc, they'll be an ear-insert which will interface directly with the brain, operated by thought. The current stuff will be laughed at. |
lol "powered by zero-point energy", that's as ludicrous as saying "powered by absolute zero" or "powered by 14 miles". zero-point energy is the term used to describe the minimum energy contained within a closed system, it's not a process or item that can generate or contain energy, simply a measurement.
I assume you mean harnessing energy from closed system (be it a perpetual motion machine or whatever). In which case just no... |
Zero-point energy is that which is created from so-called dark matter (the empty void between the galaxies or something). Or whatever. Cold fusion will do just as well.
| Drewie wrote: | My thoughts on this are complex, so stick with me on this one, I will get to the point in the end!
Personally I think we've reached the limit of what society will achieve. Science is going too far and needs to be put into check! I believe we know too much and it's ruining our happiness... What happens if the LHC proves god doesn't exist? what if machines make us redundant in the work place? we'll have nothing to believe in and nothing to do with our time... One word springs to mind... Anarchy!
I believe the only way is backwards. Look at the 40's and 50's... We still had the proper lower/working/middle/upper classes, everyone knew their place and was happy. Whole streets of people worked in the same factory/mine/mill man and boy. Nowadays everyone wants to be a "manager", they want to sit at the top of the ladder looking down... But a society of Alphas can never work! Society as we know it needs to be radically overhauled.
Consequently, in answer to the question... No, todays stuff will not look old fashioned as there will be no record of it! The leaders of the world will have destroyed all traces of "the old ways" to keep society from being so stupid as to try and advance itself to the point of destruction again.
Thats just my view anyways (and in no influenced by the fact I've just finished reading "Brave New World")
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| Hetzer wrote: | The internal-combustion engine is a piece of brute-force primitive junk. I don't think it can be much longer before we have solid-state anti-gravity drive, powered by zero-point energy.
iPods, mobile phones etc, they'll be an ear-insert which will interface directly with the brain, operated by thought. The current stuff will be laughed at. |
The internal combustion engine, is a fairly simple concept, but its had decades of development, and loads of investment over the years to make it pretty sophisticated compared to the original efforts.
Making the first anti-gravity drive a workable concept let alone viable, and competitive with engines, is a long way off if ever.
I was talking to a guy today who thinks that in 5 years time, nano technology means everything will be made easily by replicating machines.
Even if there was a working concept today, it would take years to develop and refine the concept even if there was tonnes of investment.
The technologies in the future, will just be developments of what we have, made more cost effective. We already have flying car prototypes, and low volume production, but they are expensive and although they could take off, they havent in a marketing sense. Your average exec, doesnt want to show up in the latest flying car, he would prefer a helicopter, or high end luxury car. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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 Posted: 05:00 - 11 Dec 2009 Post subject: Re: Today's 'stuff' getting old. |
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| Misc wrote: | Was thinking about some of today's 'stuff' like cars & gadgets, will they ever be seen as old fashioned or old looking? Around 50 years ago when they had those Cadillac cars with the pointy wings, people probably thought that you can't get any better. But now we look back & they're so old fashioned. But with today's cars/gadgets, i just can't see that happening.
I just can't imagine someone in 20 years time looking back at a Ferrari Enzo or a Veyron, thinking they look old fashioned. Even against the future cars we see in movies today, they hold up well. Same with our gadgets. We've got phones were we can watch movies & control everything with a finger, how more advanced can you get? Obviously there's still a huge amount that can be done but i can never see something like the iphone type phones becoming old fashioned like the Nokia 3310 which at the time, were amazing.
Same with gaming, i can't imagine our current next gen gaming being so old that it's almost like comparing an xbox with an Atari 2600.
I'm in the present so i'm obviously going to think all this, just like they probably thought back when they first had T.Vs, how could that of got any better? |
So basically, what you're saying is that you lack vision & won't be the inventor of "the next big thing"?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 48 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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