Kick start moped

[ray 316]

Can you kick start a moped and run a without the battery connected and would the key have to be used. If you can it's a easy way to nick a bike.

[The Artist]

You don't need a battery on most.

You do need a key on most.

[TQ]

The question applies to bump starting bikes just as much as kick starting mopeds.

The key is needed as the ignition switch normally controls the spark (e.g. no key, no spark).
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[27cows]

On many small bikes, all you need to start them is a cross head screwdriver. Undo the headlight, disconnect the ignition switch block and the bike will start, battery or no battery.

[MarJay]

Doesn't anybody use logic any more?

Why would manufacturers sell mopeds that can be started without a key? Mopeds are bad enough for theft without allowing them to be ridden away with no security measures at all.

We need a rating that says "If you had have thought about that you would have come upon the answer yourself rather than having to waste our time".
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[27cows]

[ms51ves3]

My Chaly sparks when you un-plug the ignition switch. I would say it started, but it didn't.

[ray 316]

No wonder mopeds/scooters are pinched so easy..

You do not need a battery to start it, you can use the kick start ... fair enough but you need the key. Or Undo the headlight, disconnect the ignition switch block and away you go .

So what is the battery's needs is it just for the lights/ indicators/ horn and the electric start..

[27cows]

Quite a few small bikes only use the battery for horn, indicators and brake light. Headlight only works with the engine running. Older bikes that mostly is, particularly those with 6V electrics.

[Jamie S]

A mate of mine who has an Rs50 showed me how he could get his bike going with no key, and with out removing any pannels and using any tools , very simple and only invloves removing one connector, the bike can then be bump started and road away......

[prawny1]

Most scooter ignition barrels control the steering lock and a basic two wire on off switch, both are easily bypassed using a few screw drivers.

The mosty effective way most scooters are protected is by having an immobiliser system that uses a transponder and sensor ring, so no key means no spark even if you gain access to the black box/ignition switch.

You can rewire the cdi unit to bypass the immobiliser but some bikes have monocolour cdi wiring, with those a knowldege of the specific bikes loom is needed.

[crackpotterpi...]

my step daughters cagiva moped was nicked out the back yard 2 days ago we got it back later the next day they just unplugged the ignition switch and you could kick start it,no shorting or connecting of wires needed! only bad thing is they made a bit of mess when they broke the steering lock off and its not insured as I bought it for her birthday next month!! thieving sh**s!!!!! I believe the honda cg is the same and several other smaller bikes watch out!!
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1990 jc20 nsr125-sold,2003 cg 125-sold currently no bike.........might get another 2 stroke me thinks much more fun

[P.]

mates mum has a lambretta...like very old 125.. that has no key, like no ignition at all!!
mental thing, was kicking it and it started...needless to say i shit myself!

[Blau Zedong]

RD125 and DT LC's are easily nickable by doing something to one wire. I'm not going to eloborate but I will say that riding them any distance like this fries the charging side of the alternator.
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