Riding withouth road TAX

[Blue_SV650S]

Presuming you have MOT and insurance, is it 'ok' to NOT pay road tax, it is only a tax at the end of the day isn't it???
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[hornetmike]

Its only really another bill and not the end of world if you don't have it for one ride, alot of the rest world doesn't bother. Its only our country that treats people that have got loads of money to throw at the goverment like baby touchers.
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[Paivi]

[Blue_SV650S]

[Mystery]

i'm ridding without displaying tax just now but it is taxxed, but i wouldn't ride for to long without it though.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Think it is a badly designed tax, and very badly implemented these days. So morally go without it.

But on the other had the penalties for not paying it are not totally out of proportion so not really feasable to avoid paying.

All the best

Keith
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[Ichy]

I own five bikes and three cars, why should I tax all of them if I can only use one at a time?

[hornetmike]

[hornetmike]

[G]

Just to confirm - you believe that someone who has four taxed vehicles but is using an untaxxed one is 'immoral' - or at least generally 'wrong'.

But not someone that say, pays a quarter of the amount of 'tax' in total, yet uses a heavy vehicle for fifty times the total distance of the first person?

[Paivi]

[hornetmike]

There should be a multi car tax disc with multi car insurance, but i think we are wandering away from the point now, riding without tax is not immoral, just naughty in the eyes of the law.
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[shadowbiker]

I tax my bike's but never display it ( always in my jacket pocket )

[Ichy]

Riding without tax is no worse than buying stuff from China on Ebay and hoping that C&E don't charge.

It is immoral of the DVLA to charge a fee for forgetting to pay your tax that is higher than the cost of the tax.

[G]

[ms51ves3]

I wouldn't ride without tax as it costs sod all in the first place. I don't display though. It's under my seat in the tax disc holder

[silky666]

Good poll (much better than the usual "would you shag a monkey if you were really pis*ed" ones).

I am confident that the numerical results, in addition to the general comments, will vindicate me.
(for those not in the SE section ... this has arisen from a discussion in another thread).

To confirm my thoughts:
1) Its an immoral tax and is not used correctly (state of the roads over past 15 yrs)
2) It should not be a criminal offence (it used to be 'just' a civil offence).
3) I do not have a problem with people that dont pay it for short periods.
4) You have no choice but to pay it long term .. due to the fact that they have:
a) made it a criminal offence (lose your job ?)
b) created sorn and powers to crush.
c) spent fortunes on adverts that announce "Do you know a tax EVADER .. they are criminals and are killers" (slight exaggeration, but you have seen the venom they portray evaders with).

All that for a vehicle tax ? A bit over the top dont you think.
The powers and punishment are a bit strong.

The old days were best:
1) If you decide to try and get away with it (very few people in total really) , then you better not get caught / stopped.
2) You wouldnt spend time in jail / have 20k car crushed / lose your job.
3) If you did get caught ... you better go trotting down to the local tax office (miles away and only open from 11am to 2pm .. ninus lunch from 12 to 1) and beg to be able to pay the back tax and a new years worth.
Old School


For the record: Every one of my vehicles (2 bikes, 3 cars) are taxed.
The hassle/poor memory of SORN'ing a vehicle even means my van is taxed until mid year, and its broken down!
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[The Artist]

I rode unknowingly without tax. My fault but it was taxed as soon as I found out. Unfortunately I was seen parked on a road so they are in the process of fining me so hopefully it will be a lot less than 2.5k which is the maximum fine + unpaid road tax.

[Ichy]

[nasty]

I got caught out a couple of times years ago when I hadn't renewed the tax on my old Orion 1.6i Ghia on numerous occasions.
Since then I've always made sure my car/bike are taxed as it costs you less at the end of the day.
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[Alexio]

I can't believe this argument is being had on a bike forum. This year I paid a whole £15!!

There's a couple of KFC's I am now sorely missing out on that I shall remember forever and ever and ever. Damn government, fixing our roads!!!
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[27cows]

The small matter of your insurance being worthless if you have an accident while untaxed pretty much sums up the situation. You've got to have tax. And you've got to display that tax, or the buggers will fine you if they catch you. Has to be on the left side of the vehicle too, or they can still fine you, even if it's clearly displayed but on the right side of the bike.

[silky666]

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