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Ian (GPX) |
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 Ian (GPX) Brolly Dolly

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 Posted: 19:21 - 30 Aug 2003 Post subject: Parking -- I got a ticket, can they do me for parking here ? |
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OK, I need some advise on this one, let me send you to two photo's of the location before anyone answers my question !
https://www.cmirrors.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parking/1.jpg
https://www.cmirrors.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parking/2.jpg
As you can see from these two pictures, the area I parked my motorcycle was next to the single upturned u bar thats embedded in the ground and fenced off from the general public, the motorcycle was not parked on the road, nor was it on the footpath (footway parking is on the ticket). The bike was not parked on the service hatches to the Telecoms boxes in the ground either !
Now I want to know if the Warden was correct to issue a ticket for parking here ?
Let me point out a few things as well, there was no sign saying no parking for motorcycles or cycles even though this single cycle parking bar is in the ground. Not only that, I was gone just two minutes !
The area is also fenced off, so the general public have to walk around it, so here it's not an obstruction to pedestrians.
Sensible comments / options welcome. |
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But, on the tax disc it says 'bicycle'  |
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It says bicycle, so your allowed to park in bicycle areas, look on the DSA or DVLA site, im sure i read it some where
What i did was, on the ticket they gave you there will be some kind of cereal number, lick your finger and rub over the number so it fades it and makes a few numbers un readable, then send it back to them saying your not willing to pay and you want to take it to court.
Then 3 weeks later i got a letter saying, sorry but we couldnt recognise the details on the ticket, please send more proof of the ticket, i laughed, wrote them a letter and said, on the day the ticket was issued, it was raining, the warden must have done something to it which ment water got it , thus ruining the ticket.
Then, they wrote back saying, due to lack of evidence and time , we have decided to drop the case, thanks for your correspondence. |
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ped at 50cc and i think even a 50 with gear come under pushbikes and therefor u ar aloud to park there!!! i was with a m8 going do a cycle path woth a m8 on his 50 and this stupid egit tryed to give us a bollocking so my m8 stopped??? but i cam back and yell back and told him to ring the police if he wanted!!
loads cycle paths around stevenage that i see ped flying along all the time. ____________________ ============================
my karma is dieing not fair who cares about spelling? i get the point across, most of the time  |
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Hmmm, don't see how they can make that one stick. That is a designated cycle parking area, a motobike is taxed as a bicycle, ergo you can park there.
Then again, I've never had a parking ticket, so possibly not the best advice! Maybe the warden was just trying to get what he/she can? ____________________ Avast! Pirates ahoy!
I did Cadwell!
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Ian (GPX) |
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 Ian (GPX) Brolly Dolly

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She can have mine too......
Anyway, I was real peeved when I saw this Traffic Warden next to my bike placing a ticket on it....... Wanted to deck him I can tell ya !
Anyway, loads of others have told me to appeal it, just like one or two have here, so thats what I am going to do..... 1st thing Monday morning a letter with photo's is going to be handed in.
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 Posted: 23:05 - 30 Aug 2003 Post subject: tickets |
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i didnt even think they would give tickets to bike cos as i park in the stupidest of places normally might have to start paying more attention ____________________ ============================
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OK guys and girls, want some info on parking your motorcycle on the pavement..... visit the link below
https://www.parkingticket.co.uk/sh.html
And just to quote a section from this page / site
Quote: | To avoid being ticketed in London, particularly in Camden and Westminster, bikes need to be parked in an area that is either fenced or has some form of barrier that prevents pedestrians from having casual access.
Where the footway begins and ends is a matter of highway and road law, not parking law. As we have said, each case depends on its own facts. The only safe course is not to park on a given area unless it is quite clear that it is not part of the footway. I would be wary of parking anywhere that the public, using the footway, were not physically prevented from walking over, by a barrier of some kind such as a wall or fence.
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https://www.motorcycleparking.com
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In areas where barriers exist or which have not been a right of way for pedestrians, then motorcycles should be outside the long arm of the council parking wardens |
So, do I have a case that I can win ? Should the ticket have been issued ? |
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[quote="McJamweasel]
Oh well, leave it to me to point out that Annabella (as you obviously didn't deduce from the name) is actualy a member of the er...er...'other side'. Yes, she is a woman.[/quote]
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I noticed... I also couldn't be arsed to post it.  ____________________ -Zimma |
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Ian, I think she answered your question. It's a cycle bay, read your tax disc, says "Bicycle" on it. They wrote the law, not us  ____________________ Back on a Blade. Just feels so right. |
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Maybe if they don't reply to your appeal in time you can claim victory? Worth a try.  |
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They are always a bit cagey about the fact it says 'bicycle' on our tax disk, if you read the highway code (yawn) it does always refer to pushbikes as 'non mototrised pedal cycles' (or something like that) and not 'bicycles'. So for some bizarre reason, I think, in the eyes of our stupid law' you still can't get away with doing things in a designated 'pedal cycle' area eg parking and cycle lanes etc etc.. ____________________ Love is 1050cc  |
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