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Koho
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Offroad training Reply with quote

I would like to improve my offroad skills. Where have you done some traing and how much did u pay?
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Re: Offroad training Reply with quote

Perhaps you should state what level your current off-road riding is at?

I did an Ady Smith school Enduro school a while ago. ?80 for the day using my own bike.
He covered some interesting stuff and riders were of around a similar ability to me.
The course he used wasn't amazing and was really badly rutted.
He wouldn't let me use his pressure washers, not even for a quick blast as he it was hassle for him to get water there.

I managed to break the bike and possibly myself, but not sure that can be blamed on the School really. Haven't actually done an Enduro or practice day since thanks to the broken bike and have forgotten most of what was taught now anyway.

Not sure there's anything better out there, but I'm not sure I learnt a massive amount more than I would have reading a book and having a day at Enduro land, which is a much better course.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on your skill level at the minute and the bike you ride... I'd say enter an enduro! I did and it improved my riding a lot even though I had only been trail riding for about a month before doing the race. My riding still sucks, but I'm better than I was before Laughing

I plan to do more this year.
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Koho
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would say begginer as level
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BMW Off-Road-Skills level 1 in Wales? its SUPER STEEP @ ?500

https://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/world-of-bmw/off-road-skills/level-one/

The 2 day course costs the thick end of ?1K.


However Walter trained on this course before tackling the BAM road, but then again he has balls as he is the first man to cross Siberia in 1994 when there were no roads.

Or just go out there and have a crack at it! , it is a matter of confidence!

I went out with neglible experience off road,

I had a day and a half in Capadocia,( dry dusty gravel and hard pack mud) then rode attrocious roads through Eastern Turkey (gravel and mud), which got worse. Then rode an attrotious rutted road in Georgia (mud) then rode 100 miles in the mud through Azerbaijan, I then got beaten up and re-did the mud road back to Georgia.

Then the road turned to mud outside Cheyalbinsk most of the way to Omsk, then got corrugated to hell badly till Novosirbisk.

It was then OK, till Kansk, Kansk was horrible, deep mud, jagged rocks, and a need to tip the bike over regularly to get
it out of the mud, along with lorries that sprayed me with mud, and mosquitoes to boot.

Mongolia was OK,

Amur highway was ok as it was 1400km of deep gravel 300 of new sealed road and 500km of just mud.

Then 400km of pot holed roads which bottomed out the XT's suspension constantly.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koho wrote:
i would say begginer as level

More details please - what sort of riding have you done before, do you do any now, etc?
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Blue_SV650S
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No training - so effectively 'nothing' Shocked

It never crossed my mind to get any training .... why would you want official training instead of just going out and having fun (and letting time/practice do its thing) Confused

Perhaps I am just odd thinking that ...
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but everybody is different, some people like to be led, others just think meh and go for it.

Heh as said I went out there and did it, but when I came to big deep rivers I was a a bit uh oh, I still made it but was bum cletchingly stiff crossing them.

Not everybody can do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjVXxCYXf4
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Koho
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Koho wrote:
i would say begginer as level

More details please - what sort of riding have you done before, do you do any now, etc?


I did 10 day trip in Morocco on my Pegaso 650. we did about 500k offroad . I can stand up on pegs, change gears, and make not sharp turns max speed around 50kmp The terrain was mixture of gravel, sand and hard surface.

I have tried dune riding but I wasn?t great Smile

I just want to start from basics and to do it right. I enjoyed it a lot.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, I would go with Blue's suggestion - get an appropriate bike and get out there to 'play', do some green lanes, practice tracks etc, maybe enter an enduro or two as you get more confident.
They all offer a fair bit better money than most courses I reckon - for the price of one day with BMW you could buy a cheap bike and get many days worth of riding, which I reckon would be more valuable.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 03 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just booked in on an Ady Smith Enduro Day for May, which will be about a year after starting green-laning/off-roading. He's a mate of one of the guys I ride with and we are going in a group with mixed abilities, some hiring, some using their own bikes.

I think it's worth getting out there and getting an idea before going on a course, as I believe you will gain more from the instruction if you're aiming to improve, rather than learning from scratch. Having said that I've been lucky, as the people I ride with are always great at offering advice on riding skills, so every ride can be a tutorial if I ask!
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

me and some mates did a day last year at the yamaha off road school in mid wales with garet jones, ex enduro champ (i think).
it cost ?190 for the day and thats using there bikes 125,250 or 450.
best ?200 i ever spent. Very Happy
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