Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Body Armour

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

manuka
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 07 Dec 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:46 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Body Armour Reply with quote

I have been considering upgrading my motorbike gear to provide a bit more protection in case of an accident/spill. I have been fortunate so far in that my only injury has been a bruised big toe when i fell off my bike as a learner.

The one piece of kit that I was looking in to is a strap-on dorsal body armour suit (the same make as horse-riders and freestyle skiiers wear). It retails for about 80 pounds.

My jacket is a HG with 'hiprotect' padding in the back, and I always wear a kidney belt (for warmth really rather than protection).

I wondered about people's experience of the body armour, and general 'added extra' safety gear that you would reccomend using.
____________________
"ouch!" said Mr Bump
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

G
The Voice of Reason



Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:56 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Re: Body Armour Reply with quote

First off, if you really want to avoid getting hurt, spending that money on doing your IAM certificate (if your local IAM group is good) or similar would probably be money much better spent.
I’ve used such armour on off-road bikes I suspect. It should be remembered that all armour will do is distribute the force over a big area and longer time.
This can be enough to save what would have been a break, but all the force is going to be transmitted, so if there’s enough there it will still do the damage.

Personally, if I was worried I’d go with decent leathers with appropriate armour fully in, only ‘extra’ bit I’d really worry about is a back protector, though I’ve been fine with the in-built ones (including having another bike/rider hit me in the back more than once, landing after flying over a tyre wall at some speed etc.)
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

manuka
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 07 Dec 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:32 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear motorbike trousers with the armour pads inserted. It was a forcefield L2 back protector in particular that I was looking at. But actually, I suspect it won't provide much more protection than the insert in my jacket after checking it just now!

I have considered about the IAM course. Prior to getting my motorbike license I decided not to do my advanced car test, as I had this (unfounded) concern that it would spoil my enjoyment of driving. I know this is silly as it can only make my time on the bike safer. Additionally I do spend less time on my motorbike than in the car, so have less 'road-time' experience.

I have just been reading the website of my local advanced motorcycling group, and I'm intrigued. Its certainly something I wil check out in more detail and less expensive than I was expecting.

thanks for the advice.
____________________
"ouch!" said Mr Bump
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

ToGGoT
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 25 Jan 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:46 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear a back protector, more because IMHO the more you can do to protect yourself in the event you DO come off, the better. IAM courses might help you, but in the end, if you're going to come off, or someone is going to pull out infront of you last minute, its going to happen whatever.

All i will say though, is TRY THEM ON! I found some uncomfortable, or restrictive, and i can imagine some of them getting very hot on a long ride. I've got a Knox Aegis at the moment, and im very happy with it, but it is all personal preference when you get down to it. Also, sizing is very important. I ALMOST bought a 7-plate online, but didnt as i was off the the NEC a few weeks later. Spoke to the knox guy there, and he measured me, and it turns out i actually want an 8. Went home and bought that online, saving ££'s, and am comfortable and happy.

ToGGoT
____________________
2005 BMW R1150R
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

G
The Voice of Reason



Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:04 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once I got into doing trackdays I found it kinda runed road riding for me anyway – I would never be riding as fast as I could (on track), so there was a lot less point.
‘Advanced’ riding offers a different set of skills to learn/challenge yourself, but I wouldn’t say makes it more boring.

Some IAM groups apparently aren’t that great, but I’ve quite liked my local one, with some reservations.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Kal
World Chat Champion



Joined: 02 Jan 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:06 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my body armour, although I only tend to wear it on poor confidence days or long distance trips. Like everything else it is a little strange when you first wear it but you soon adapt and stop noticing.

Mine cost me £40.
____________________
Kal...
I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It Ya Like To (HOON IT!).

1984 GB250 Clubman,1983 CB250N Superdream, 1999 GPZ500S
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

fra-zzr
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:55 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

although its obviously very intrusive the benefits of choice pieces of body armour are pretty clear. The chest is particularly exposed on a bike as i found out when i came off. broke most of my ribs hitting the bars, the day before i had been trying on a chest protector and chose not to buy it....

dont know if it would have helped, and either way the ribs were healed by the time i was out of hospital so.. yea not really much to say Laughing
____________________
04' Hyosung Comet Gt125
96' zzr600
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

G
The Voice of Reason



Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:34 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

fraser.h.cameron wrote:

dont know if it would have helped, and either way the ribs were healed by the time i was out of hospital so.. yea not really much to say Laughing

Possible it might have helped as you hit something pointy, or may have just broken different ribs, possibly even more.
While you were unlucky in this regard (and I think a broke a rib or two in my big racing accident), in general I'd say the chest isn't a big worry for road stuff - have crashed a lot of times on road and track and that racing incident is the only time I've had an issue.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

manuka
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 07 Dec 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:30 - 09 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My local IAM group meet weekly at a biker cafe, so it's a nice easy way to pop along and meet them before I commit to any involvement. I just hope they don't insist I wear a white helmet and a sam browne belt.
____________________
"ouch!" said Mr Bump
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

LeanIt
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 23 Nov 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:07 - 09 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are arguments for both the armour and the advanced training .

The training will make you a safer rider , but not protect you against the 'a' hole that doesn't see you .

The armour will help to protect you , but wont make you invincible.

For invincible you must press 'Caps Lock , Shift , Ctrl and Enter' while standing on one leg Mr. Green

In the perfect world we'd do both Laughing
____________________
Life is like a shit sandwich. The more bread you have, the less shit you eat.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

and
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:00 - 10 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

...

Last edited by and on 14:01 - 24 Mar 2010; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Ingah
World Chat Champion



Joined: 10 Apr 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:46 - 12 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulthar wrote:

Sorry but you can not compare that thin bit of foam to a back protector. The foam insert and the Forcefield L2 are worlds apart and the L2 will offer protection. You are talking about a huge difference in the amount of force being transfered to your spine. There is a reason why the L2 is CE approved and the foam insert is not. The L2 transmits 4 kN of force. Other CE approved back protectors transmit anywhere up to 9 kN. If thats CE level 2 testing for back protectors, imagine how much force that foam insert is transmitting to your spine? 50 kN? thats fatal.



What about the CE approved foam insert back protectors? What's a level 1 foam insert vs a level 1 back protector?

I know which one i'd trust more in a serious accident, but it does set me wondering.
____________________
-- Ingah
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

and
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:21 - 12 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

...

Last edited by and on 14:11 - 24 Mar 2010; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

G
The Voice of Reason



Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:53 - 12 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what TC has said in the past I think he believes that often the foam ones tend to offer generally better protection on the street. I believe there was the added suggestion that in a lot of cases it may be the more expensive ones are more likely to seriously injure you than protect you in a lot of situations.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 16 years, 257 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.09 Sec - Server Load: 1.38 - MySQL Queries: 14 - Page Size: 82.8 Kb