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wupwup
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: 125 with over 15bhp Reply with quote

just saw a hyosung gt on egay wich im looking out for for about a grand. bit rusted and possibly an import but worth a second thought. anyway if i replaced the exhaust with a preformance can / pipes it would have over 15 bhp and technicaly illegal on a cbt. would it matter and would they be able to tell the bhp after a crash e.c.t? cheers
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought it was 12bhp, but like you are going to notice the difference between 12 and 15bhp. The cost to get that extra 3bhp is simply not worth it, might as well go take your full bike test. Also such mods to get those extra 3 may not work as claimed!.

Now the RS125 which can get you 25bhp.... however this mods will be very obvious!.
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Rob W
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really much point putting a 'performance' can/pipes on something like that mate, just ride it as it is.

Probably nowhere near 14.6bhp in the first place, and IMO unless you killed someone I doubt they'd bother checking the bike over.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob ZX4R wrote:
Not really much point putting a 'performance' can/pipes on something like that mate, just ride it as it is.

Probably nowhere near 14.6bhp in the first place, and IMO unless you killed someone I doubt they'd bother checking the bike over.


well its at 14.2 bhp to begin with i think. and the exhaust / pipes need replacing so thought i might as well go for good ones Very Happy but fair enough
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

wupwup wrote:
Rob ZX4R wrote:
Not really much point putting a 'performance' can/pipes on something like that mate, just ride it as it is.

Probably nowhere near 14.6bhp in the first place, and IMO unless you killed someone I doubt they'd bother checking the bike over.


well its at 14 bhp to begin with i think. and the exhaust / pipes need replacing so thought i might as well go for good ones Very Happy but fair enough


Claimed 14bhp, it's probably lost a couple of horses by now, Wink.

If the pipes need replacing then maybe it wouldn't matter so much bunging on something a bit 'sportier'. Just I wouldn't go spending silly money on something that isn't worth a great deal in the first place.

You got a link to the ebay auction?
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2008-HYOSUNG-GT-125-COMET-BLUE_W0QQitemZ200441822029QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycles?hash=item2eab437b4d

there you go. reason im asking is someone on here got theres going 90 mph with a ton of mods that got it up to 18bhp! obviously i have neither the money or inclination to take it that far but if i did go slightly over the limit would it matter? i probably wont get that bike as im not ready to buy yet and it looks in shit state but it got me thinking
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had upjetted carbs, different sprockets, sv650 k&n filter, straight through pipes and a scorpion can.

Didnt matter really...police wont bother you, neither will the MOT centre, no one will care, its like a ped doing over 30mph...police couldnt care mate.

Also if its that bike in the ad that does 90, you are wrong, that exhaust is standard, and VERY VERY restrictive!
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Learner limit is 11kW, which is just under 15hp.

I wouldn't expect a replacement exhaust to make any great difference to power, unless the bike is deliberatly restricted in the exhaust (and being a 4 stroke 125 designed for the learner market I would doubt it is restricted).

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:07 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Learner limit is 11kW, which is just under 15hp.

I wouldn't expect a replacement exhaust to make any great difference to power, unless the bike is deliberatly restricted in the exhaust (and being a 4 stroke 125 designed for the learner market I would doubt it is restricted).

All the best

Keith


Ask the guys at MotoUnion, they cut open the exhaust, apparently its totally crammed with crap, the junction box where the 2 pipes meet is apparently restricted so bad, each pipe has something that looks similar to the NSR125 pipe, welded in and restricting that.

Might not make as much difference as a 2 stroke by changing it, but it is definitely heavily raped in the exhaust.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

If the bits in each pipe are the same as the NSR restriction then they will easily flow enough for a 125 4 stroke. Quite possible that they are there to create a pressure wave at the right point for peak power and give the bike some power.

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:06 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
I had upjetted carbs, different sprockets, sv650 k&n filter, straight through pipes and a scorpion can.

Didnt matter really...police wont bother you, neither will the MOT centre, no one will care, its like a ped doing over 30mph...police couldnt care mate.

Also if its that bike in the ad that does 90, you are wrong, that exhaust is standard, and VERY VERY restrictive!


ok thats good to know. and yeah i know that exhaust is standard but it looks nackered so i was thinking i would get a new one if i got this bike (which is unlikely). how much pricce difference is there between a standard can and a preformance can? cheers
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

A performance can will be a LOT cheaper. Race cans are nothing special, just a couple of end caps, an outer tube with a perforated inner tube and a bit of cheap baffle packing material. Little engineering and no real need to do anything difficult like keep it quiet (while some have removeable baffles, most probably make far less power than standard when the baffle is in place).

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you declaring your modification to your insurers, or are you going to ride with invalidated insurance due to your failure to disclose a modification? (and also by the sound of it, contrary to the terms of your license)

All insurers are the same in this respect, if they get the opportunity, they can and they will bend you over... (it'll be expensive, and it can get you 6 points/banned for no insurance/license).

You'd have to be unlucky / involved in a smash, but stranger things have happened.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 21 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
Are you declaring your modification to your insurers, or are you going to ride with invalidated insurance due to your failure to disclose a modification? (and also by the sound of it, contrary to the terms of your license)

All insurers are the same in this respect, if they get the opportunity, they can and they will bend you over... (it'll be expensive, and it can get you 6 points/banned for no insurance/license).

You'd have to be unlucky / involved in a smash, but stranger things have happened.


I dare not tell them about my car... but on the bike I do, aside from the "performance can" as it added £80 to my policy...
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 22 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just add the can for sound, it will sound pretty good you'll be surprised Wink
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