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The thing you have to remember with asking for advice on your first bike is that everyone will have a different opinion of what you should buy. A lot believe a sports bike is the wrong place to start and something like a cb500 is the way to go. Others will tell you that naked 600's are the best starting point with the likes of the hornet/bandit etc being top of the list. Others will say that the 600sports class are a good starting point... Less insane power than the big thous.
Each opinion is valid in it's own right, but just remember that it is only that... Someones opinion. I've known people jump straight from DAS onto Millies/GSXR750s and Daytona T595s and they are all very much alive, loving biking and very proud of their bikes. Similarly I know someone who did his restricted licence, bought a hornet, binned it and is no longer with us. As long as you aren't on a restricted licence then there is no law stopping you riding anything. Ultimately, get the bike you want and believe that you can handle. Despite common opinion telling me not to, I fully intend to get a Daytona 955i at some point, even though I've only ridden a slow naked tourer up till now. I believe I am sensible enough to handle it and thats all that matters. Just be aware that bikes are a ferocious beast... Take it steady, walk before you can run and you'll be fine! If you are in any doubt, do a test ride and let the bike do the talking. Oh and look at Yammy Thundercats, in my experience (by that I mean when I have sat on them) they are comfier than the CBR600.
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| Poseidon wrote: | Fair point... I've spent my entire life on vehicles with engines, from racing quadbikes at 11 through to working as a driver for a living now. Consequently, I have a very real idea of my abilities and sensibleness (if that's a word) and I believe I can handle a daytona. Not everybody has this insight and as you say can often end up with a bike they believe they can handle and end up stacking it the first time they take it out. |
I concur with this. Observation suggests that the period after you have gained some confidence but are still gaining experience is the most dangerous time for a new rider.
| Poseidon wrote: | Looking at accident statistics it's clear that more accidents occur in the 16-20 catagory than any other, with 31-35 being a close second (born again bikers perhaps?) |
Again I concur with your conclusions, especially about BAB's many of whom seem to have more money than sense.
| Poseidon wrote: | but I would like to know what your evidence is for sportsbikes being a contributing factor in this. Surely the age groups with the least experienced riders in will always have a high accident rate regardless. I don't doubt for a second that some of these accidents will have been caused by a newbie not being able to handle their machine, but I can't seem to find the stats that say it was sportsbikes over commuters/tourers. Most of the stats point to Right of Way Violations (ROWVs), bends and filtering overtakes. There's nothing linking noobs on sportsbikes to the accident rates.
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If I couldn't defend it then it wouldn't be a point of view woirth having Drew
I used to have on my old machine some insurance statistics, the Hurt report, Maids and some stuff from Bikesafe. Sadly that machine is deceased and the Bikesafe sites with the figures for machines over 500cc's seem to be offline.
I'll look into it next week when I have some time, nudge me to remind me. ____________________ Kal...
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I went on a cbr600 back when i rode a vfr400. To be honest i found the cbr easier to ride as it felt very well planted to the road and more comfortable. For a great many years the CBR was the benchmark bike for handling, performance and reliability. Obviously they are less extreme than todays sports 600's making them alot more usable by comparrison.
If your having trouble finding a 500 you like, or can trust i'd recommend the cbr 600 and a little self control  |
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I have a Kawasaki er5 (VERY similar to GPZ500/CB500)
I highly recommend GPZ/CB500 because as a first bike they do it ALL!
-comfortable riding position
-enough power
-can 2 up easily
-VERY easy to maneuvre
-simple to maintain
and finally they are great to get used to a big bike and a great way to discover what type of rider you are (sporty/tourer/commuter)
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I did my training and tests on 2 kawasaki ER5's,
nice bikes to learn on because they feel like "a big bike" but are quite forgiving.
After I passed I wasn't sure what to get, I thought i'd get something fairly cheap..then if i want to change it in a year it would be ok.
I considered getting an ER5, but thought i would get bored fairly quickly,
I ended up getting a 1998 FZS 600 Fazer.....I love it,
it does everything I want.........
it's fun in the twisties,
it is quite quick,
(although I must admit it doesn't feel as quick as it did a year ago, must be getting used to it....time for something bigger)
it's comfy,
it has the thunder cat (modified) engine,
R1 front brakes,
pretty cheap to insure,
only downside i guess is some people think it looks a bit dated, but so do I, so I guess we go well together
oh, and for the number crunchers....
it's 95bhp @ 11,500rpm and top speed is 140mph.
I would say an old Fazer is a very good bike for your first big bike.
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