Pulled by C.I.D

[Jayy]

I was on my way back from town, coming through the traffic lights 1/2 a mile from my house, I was about 500ft from the lights and I accelerated quickly and the front wheel popped up about 2ft in the air and dropped again. Next thing, some guy in a Ford Fiesta, small one, flashes his police badge at me an says pull over.

I pull over and he says, "What's that all about pulling wheelys?". I said, "I didn't intentionally pull a wheely, I just accelerated quickly and the front popped up and went back down". He said, "Right pull your bike over here whilst I book this in".

First thing I said to him was, "Let me see your I.D. again please?". He pulled out his I.D. and I went to hold it but he swiped it away from me and said, "Look but don't touch!". I looked at it closely and his picture looked blurry, looked at this face and back again and it wasn't very clear at all. He was wearing plain clothes, leather jacket and jeans.

He starts writing out something in his notepad. I asked him what was going on and he said, "I'm writing you a court summons". He took my registration, name, dob, address and asked how long I've been riding for and did I have any points on my license. I gave him all the information and told him I had a clean license.

I kept apologising and saying it wasn't intentional and asked what I was actually being booked for, he said, "Dangerous driving". He then mentioned, I can admit to the offence and take 3 points and a fine or it goes to court. I said, "Look, I admit I pulled a wheely but not intentionally".

He made me go through what he had written in his notebook and sign it. He then cautioned me for the offence and said I would have to wait until I get the ticket in the post. Before driving off, he did a u-turn and as he came back around, he said to me, "You better hope I'm too busy to do the paperwork for this James". I just said, "Thank you very much" and off he went.

Few things that struck me as odd, firstly he was driving a little Ford Fiesta, I thought they all drove reasonably quick cars to keep up with people who don't stop? Secondly, he didn't actually have a radio with him. He didn't even verify any of my information or give me a producer, I could of told him anything and he would of had to of taken it as true.

I'm thinking he wasn't even on duty and after pulling me and writing it all out, then having a bit of a chat with him, realised I wasn't some scally and wasn't being a nob with him and maybe decided he would "be too busy to do the paperwork".

What do you think here?

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Wait and see.
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[Jayy]

Another thing as well, he didn't give me any paperwork at all. Didn't even give me his name...

[Carl_steveo]

I'm sure I read somewhere if you aren't sure someone is a policeman you can ride to the nearest police station and sort it there. I would have asked for more proof that he was po po.
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Very bizarre indeed.
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[JP7]

What he said about dangerous driving was rubbish for a start, it carries a minimum one year ban if you're convicted of it.

I doubt he would have been CID, sounds like he was off duty, in which case it's not really that appropriate for him to be using his personal car to pull people over.

Sounds very strange to me.

[Jayy]

The whole thing was wierd, I could of given him a fake name and address and he wouldn't of known. How could he check the registration of my bike to see whether it was reported stolen or if I was even the registered keeper of the bike?

[CptBlack]

Possibly could have said, you won't sign anything or give information until you verify his identity - phone the police station he claims to come from using directory inquiries. Alternatively, ask him to get some uniformed officers to attend. The downside is this will obviously p!ss them off and might make them more keen to not let you off.

Don't think of giving false information though, as he has your registration, and if legit then will track you easily.

[Kickstart]

Hi

While this could be legit (and can't remember whether there is a requirement to pull over for a policeman out of uniform), I would be a touch concerned that this is someone fishing for your address to come back and steal your bike.

All the best

Keith
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[Kwaks]

So let me get this right.....you have just given all your personal details to a stranger


Doesn't sound like po po to me, better lock that bike up well and keep a close eye on your credit score.

In addition I would consider reporting this to the real Police, sounds to me someone is impersonating. At least tell me you took the registration of his car?
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[Handsome]

I'd have gone with off duty, but fuck would I have let him leave the ' scene ' untill he'd given me all of his details and a copy of what he's wrote down tbh...

You'll just have to wait and see...

EDIT...Hold on, my money's on that tit who road around on the stickered Pan Euro pretending to be Po Po, only he's moved onto a Fiesta...
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[Ste]

Pretty certain they can only stop you if they're in uniform?

[pepperami]

I am fairly certain that ANY plod that stops you MUST clearly identify themselves and if you ask they must tell you what station they are based at.
i am sure that they are required to surrender thier last name, rank, personal number as well as allowing you to see thier warrant card.

i cant say that the above is law, but i am reasonably certain that they have to meet those criteria (whats the bets someone tells me i`m wrong?)

also i believe that there should be an incident number for each stop.

i strongly suggest that you seek citizens advice as this sounds a bit fishy to me.
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[Chris750]

I think maybe he was a copper, but he was in his own car, off duty maybe, maybe on his way to work.

He sees you pulling a wheelie, thinks I'll teach him a lesson and then goes through the whole rigmarole just to give you a bit of scare, hence the "if I'm not to busy".

[johnsmith222]

I am pretty sure that whoever stopped you should not have.

Lock up your bike if you gave him your address and keep an eye out.

[Jayy]

It's like on real hustle where they impersonate police officers, with a flash of a badge or some official looking uniform and a confident person, most people will go into a panic state and just comply with them because they think they're real plod.

What I want to know is, is that even legal to not give me any information of what the offence was, not even radio anything through and just write shit in a notebook and tell me to "expect a ticket in the post" ?

I rang legal aid helpline and asked them but they don't really deal with traffic offences and told me to contact the local police station. I don't want to contact them incase I piss the fella off and he is plod, just wanted to find some facts out first, especially what the legal required time is from booking someone to actually sending them a court summons or a ticket in the post, then if I know it's say 14 days, I can wait the 14 days so it wouldn't stand and actually ring up and find out if it was legit or not.

If he was real plod and he said that at the end about being too busy to do the paperwork, I'd like to let it go until I'm in the clear before checking if it's legit or not.

[Ste]

Contact your local police station to report it and to make an official complaint about that officer.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q587.htm

"An unmarked police car can stop vehicles, but it must contain a constable who MUST be in uniform in order to carry out the stop."

[Frost]

CID is Crime Investigation Department. They don't need to drive fast cars, cars with lights or anything. They are basically just police that specialise in detective work and can arrest people etc.

If he actually does report you for dangerous driving it will come down to your word against his as he didn't have anything on film or find any witnesses. Obviously a court would believe him over you but it doesn't sounds like he was going out of his way to build a case against you. I suspect he was just trying to scare you into being more careful in future.

[Jayy]

[Kwaks]

As someone has already said, Dangerous Driving is dealt with by the courts with no option of a FPN.

In addition the 14 day rule regarding a NIP can be bypassed if you were given a roadside NIP, so waiting 14 days will not tell you one way or another.

I would be visiting the local station to clarify the situation, sounds to me like their is enough wrong with the stop to have it quashed even if the cop turns out to be legite. If it wasn't then this pratt needs caught
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[Ste]

If he was actually a cop then I'd be pretty sure that he's not going to do the paperwork as it was illegal for him to stop you.

[Carl_steveo]

You really should ring the local po po station, he might do this all day long for the craic and be upto something a wee bit dodgy.

If I was you I would be sleeping in the garage with a loaded shotgun for the next 6 month just incase he comes for your brum brum.

He might be some sort of police impersonating rapist and you just didn't tickle his fancy.
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[Jayy]

Agreed G, if he is who he says he is, I don't want to kick up a fuss, especially after saying that at the end.

My garage is detached from the house 15ft from my window, it's alarmed and has chains on the bikes. There's no way someone is getting in there without me hearing. The slightest thing wakes me up and I always have my window open at night plus I have two dogs that go mental if someone so much as walks within 30ft of the house. I'm not concearned about someone coming to steal my bike, just if there is actually any possibility of him issuing me a ticket for dangerous driving.