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PostPosted: 16:50 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Dog as food? Reply with quote

So, having found myself in 'dog eating country' in Thailand, and having made a couple of vietnamese friends who enjoy taking a farang for dog...

What's the general view on it?

I'm of the persuasion that animals bred for food are fair game, and there are worse conditions for most livestock in said countries, and pigs are infinitely more intelligent then dogs (and cows are sacred in certain places) so those arguments are fairly shakey.

As for being a dog lover, I'm well known for being a lover of animals and tend to prefer the company of dogs/cats to people the vast majority of the time. Started today off petting a puppy while waiting to do my bit on stage (Thai schools are FULL of stray dogs, and this puppy happened to wander right to the front of a 3000 strong assembly outside Laughing Cute thing, sharp teeth though Mr. Green), and after getting back from the dog noshing session this evening went and bought food for my bosses dogs (again Evil or Very Mad) as he doesn't feed them (they hunt flies bless em).

So, thoughts? Squeamish? Conscientious objector? Worried you won't be able to look 'Lucky' in the face again afterwards?

Oh, and some pics. Dog 'restaurant' has some resident dogs there that are well used to eating dog. Still bloody fun feeding them dog though, whilst cackling maniacally.

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PostPosted: 16:56 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Strongman' soup in S.Korea - slow cooked to tenderise the meat and heavily spiced, more like a stew really.
Supposed to increase your sexual vigour.

It was ok, not something i'd have again though when 'better' meat is on offer. Korean dog eating stems back mostly to the austerity of the war years, and generally isn't 'advertised' to westerners.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure why not.

It's just the way us Westerners have been conditioned to think it's "wrong".

I'd have no problems eating fido.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meat is meat, and unless your a veggie, you are a girl but even if you are a veggie.

Only modern western society would think it is not right.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time I ate dog it was a roadtrip to meet some vietnamese, who made a big fuss about making it authentic style. The duck they did was epic, but the dog suuuuuuucked. Was just on the bone, and had to get gnawed off with fat included on almost all. Was just one long fat dodging/eating session. Although dog liver and intestines are a very odd experience, yet actually pretty good Thumbs Up

This 'restaurant' however lets you pick your own cut (literally, a huge cooler box of dog slabs) and my friend Jai is an expect at picking out good stuff. It's like a cross between beef and pork, actually really good. And they have big chunks of meat in the first plate, choice cuts as it were. Basically just eat them plain, but next time I might bring some bread and mayo Laughing Kind of meat that would REALLY suit mayo.

After that comes all the fatty bits. Which is where dog feeding happens mostly.

I bought back a bag of fat to said hungry dogs. There was a lot of whimpering and they ran off, so it's true, god knows how a hungry dog differentiates... but they do. Only so curious after reading about Amundsen feeding his sled dogs each other strategically... which was ingenious. But it was a big point that only eskimo dogs would willingly.

I have absolutely no problem with it. Have even accidentally eaten shark fin soup out here (although I definitely DID have a quiet word to the host about that afterwards), so cats and dogs are certainly not sacred.

Those pics are up on faceyB now. I'm expecting a lot of flaming, god bless the easily roused rabble. Fuck em, I think they are great pictures Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you feeding dog to... dog?
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:

I have absolutely no problem with it. Have even accidentally eaten shark fin soup out here (although I definitely DID have a quiet word to the host about that afterwards), so cats and dogs are certainly not sacred.



I have absolutely no problem with eating shark. In fact, i have no problem with sharks being killed for absolutely no reason at all.
When i'm a lottery millionaire i shall spend a large part of my time on a boat, luring sharks in with chum and bait, then machine gunning them with a .50 calibre.

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PostPosted: 17:20 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistergixer, when you prove to me that dog numbers worldwide are in exponential decline, then I shall treat your argument with some validity Wink

Spit-fire, it is infact a dog eat dog world Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:
Mistergixer, when you prove to me that dog numbers worldwide are in exponential decline, then I shall treat your argument with some validity Wink



I don't care about science or fact, i just hate the fucking things. I hate them more than i hate wasps, no reason, no rational behind it, i just hate them.
I admire their efficiency and evolutionary perfection, but to me it's in the same league as admiring Hitler for his efficiency in producing and promoting the 'final solution'.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id eat dog, i'd eat anything.

I'd eat people if needed.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: Dog as food? Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:


I like the way it comes served with tapeworm. Nice use of available materials.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never eaten dog even when I worked in Vietnam.

Although there was a funny moment when (funnily enough in the Dog House at work) we were showing each other pics we had of our dogs on our phones, my Newfoundland, Davie's Puppy English Mastif and Mario's Great Dane we asked Hein the Vietnamese Driller what he though and he just turned round and said "Yummy" Sad
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, Because of my two labs which i love to death i could never do it. But I'm not going to be arrogant enough to force my opinion onto other people.

I do however object if the dogs are kept in piss poor conditions, i remember a documentary on channel 4 about a place where they sold Dog and they had an Alsation outside which they tied up and just chopped the leg off which was all they needed and then let it bleed to death.

Hall-al butchers are even worse, they will slit a goats throat and hang it up by its legs kicking and screaming in front of the other goats (and they're intelligent enough to know what's going on)

I am quite proud of the fact in Britain we stun the animals and it is done as humanely as is possible in production.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

N.C wrote:

Hall-al butchers are even worse, they will slit a goats throat and hang it up by its legs kicking and screaming in front of the other goats (and they're intelligent enough to know what's going on)


They're incompetent halal butchers, then, because the point of it is to make death as quick as possible for the goat, while geting the blood out as quickly as possible (it's a lot slower when the heart's not beating, and blood goes nasty pretty fast in hot countries). I agree that it's harsh doing so in front of other goats, but I'm not 100% that that's the typical method.

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I am quite proud of the fact in Britain we stun the animals and it is done as humanely as is possible in production.

I'm guessing that you've never seen battery hens, then?
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's it taste like then?
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto wrote:
What's it taste like then?


Chicken.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I make a conscious effort to only eat meat that comes from animals that have been reared, housed and killed in a manner that I agree with. If I lived in a country where dogs were bred and kept for eating and they were kept appropriately and killed in a decent manner then I probably would eat the meat.

However, more often than not when I've been travelling in the Far East I've not approved of the way most livestock is kept let alone killed, so I have tended to adopt a vegetarian diet, which to be fair has been what the locals eat anyway. They seem to eat meat only on special occasions so that suits me too.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:

They're incompetent halal butchers, then, because the point of it is to make death as quick as possible for the goat, while geting the blood out as quickly as possible (it's a lot slower when the heart's not beating, and blood goes nasty pretty fast in hot countries). I agree that it's harsh doing so in front of other goats, but I'm not 100% that that's the typical method.

I'm guessing that you've never seen battery hens, then?


Well they probably are then, but they do it that way, because laws can't intefere with the way they do things because of their "religion"

And yes i have, but i was mainly talking about beef and pork.
I also will buy free range chicken where possible
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love dogs, but i'd eat it. Its probably just stray dog and is probably quite commonly eaten in the more rural parts. People are poor and can't see the point of spending money and time traveling somewhere to get pork or shrimp. It makes a lot of sense to get rid of the stray dog problem by eating them. Morally i have no problem with it. I expect they taste crap, but i'd try it anyway.

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PostPosted: 21:04 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ate some dog curry when in China...it wasn't as nice as it looked in Vietnam, but my then I'd switched to tofu or vegetables only...after being round the food markets...!! Sick

The dog meat I had was dark orange in colour and swimming in fat, so I ended up eating the rice more so than the meat bit. I didn't know what it was until later.

Had it been grilled or fried, I think it would have been more appetising. The meat on your dish in the picture looks edible enough.
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevoriv wrote:
Ditto wrote:
What's it taste like then?


Chicken.


You are incorrect sir. It's like a rich pork.

Tonka, in Thailand you really can't be a veggie. Theres a veggie here who eats, everyday, either egg on rice or veggies on rice. And none of the thais will take her out to dinner.

Good to see that BCF is once again a bastion of independent thought Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:49 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:
Tonka, in Thailand you really can't be a veggie. Theres a veggie here who eats, everyday, either egg on rice or veggies on rice. And none of the thais will take her out to dinner.

Good to see that BCF is once again a bastion of independent thought Thumbs Up


TBH I was close to the coast when I travelled in Thailand, so stuck to fish. It was Sri Lanka and Malaysia where the veggie options were better - wherever there is a Buddhist population you'll find you can get by ok.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spit-Fire wrote:
are you feeding dog to... dog?


No worse than basting a chicken with an egg. You're basically coating the corpse of an animal with the liquified form of its baby! Pretty morbid!
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup I'd eat dog - but I thought you were concerned about the build up of toxins in higher level carnivores?
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