What the hell?

Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

https://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news/Ex-soldier-faces-jail-handing-gun/article-1509082-detail/article.html

Precis , man hands in gun he found, to the police station, convicted of possessing a gun , sentenced to 5 years.
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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

Is this some kind of sick fucking joke? Oh, no, of course it's not...

...THIS IS LAW AND ORDER IN THE UK!
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oldpink · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Karma :

he'd have got less time if he went into the local post office and used the gun to hold it up

the law is an ass
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Raffles · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Karma :

The Police ''Service'' motto appears to be:-
If we can't catch real criminals, we'll make criminals out of the people we can catch.
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GhostRider · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Karma :

Well the police and the judge are cunts that need to die of the worse kind of cancer, but thats a given.

What the FUCK was the jury thinking? 20 minutes to deliberate that yes, without a shadow of doubt, this guy needs to go down for a minimum of 5 years for handing in a gun that otherwise could have been found by some yoof or even a small child, and used to mug someone else, or maybe blow their own head off if found by a child?

How the fuck do they sleep at night? I can only imagine they were pinned on this case at the end of a 6 week jury duty and it was a friday afternoon and they werent really listening to the case at all, because otherwise I dont see how anyone could look at the evidence and think that he was guilty.

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Dragonfly · Super Spammer Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Karma :

Thats f*cked up Confused

Maybe he should have handed it to a chav scum bag who would get a less sentance from using it. Rolling Eyes

Jury must be a right pack of assholes to decide guilty on that one.
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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

Meanwhile people who glass other people in the face get cautioned.

Short of a full-blown revolution there's no hope for this vile nazi police-state.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

The law is blind, and incredibly stupid at times.

By the letter of the law he was guilty and had admitted it. What this shows is that the law was very badly drafted (along with many other recent laws). What you get when you have knee jerk "tough" laws.

Wonder whether they are going to prosecute the copper he handed it in to for the same offence. As by the same standards he is probably guilty as well.

All the best

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Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

My Jane's Beat Officer's Companion says that "A person commits an offence if, without lawful authority OR REASONABLE EXCUSE (the proof thereof lies with him) he has with him in a public place a loaded shotgun...... (or any other firearm whether loaded or not).

Seems to me he has a reasonable excuse - just as the officer he handed it to would have lawful authority.

The same defence applies to parents who confiscate pot from their little darlings to hand into Old Bill as soon as practical - they have no Lawful Authority, but they have a Reasonable Excuse. It's a statutory defence.

It looks like he did delay in handing the gun in at the nick, so I could understand an arrest to investigate it if they thought there were suspicious details, but it looks like they didn't find any so he should've been released and NFA taken.

How it's managed to get past the police, the case progression unit and the CPS is beyond me - if the facts as we have been given them are true, how is it in the public interest to prosecute?
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Which is irrelevant anyway. The only law the govt has any business making in regard to firearms concerns somebody harming somebody else with one.

If I want to walk down the road with a pistola in my belt it's my business and nobody else's. And if a copper tries to interfere with that right, by arresting me (assault) and imprisoning me (stealing my liberty without moral cause or right) it's my right to defend myself, by shooting him if necessary. Which is what will happen if such a situation ever occurs.

Oh..he's just doing his job, as prescribed by law? So were the east-german border-gaurds, who 'lawfully' shot people trying to visit west-germany via the wall. They've now been prosecuted and imprisoned for a range of offences, from assault to murder.

These diseased scum make this shit up as they go along. Telling us what we can and can't do, what we can and can't have. And everyone just sits back and takes it, to the point an innocent man is looking at 5 years in hell, for doing right.

This country is a fucking sewer, and has been turned into that by the sub-human degenerates of the establishment.
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speechless-the only post in which i have the real possibility of avoiding a spelling mistake-its brief.

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Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

There must be more to it that just the bare facts we are given.

If I was to find a weapon such as a fire arm, I now know to leave it where it is, dial 999 and ask for the police firearms section to come and pick it up.
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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

I really want to believe there's something the police knew that we don't, such as the guy was a known blagger and was trying to get away with it in some way by pulling a fast one. It simply beggars belief that any pig would pull a stunt so despicably wrong as this appears to be.
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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

Ghost this has already happened,

I forget the name of the case, but a child went missing (it walked off on its own) , a van driver plumber or sparky saw the child walking at the side of an A road.

He was asked to testify in court, when asked why he didn't call it in or stop he said he didn't want to be thought of as a kiddie fildder and drove on.
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