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Ariel Badger
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Carb Porn Reply with quote

My new Amal GP Carb ordered today, should be with me by January.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a carb.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOW MUCH! Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackwolf wrote:
HOW MUCH! Shocked


Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely Cool Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Om nom nom nom Drooling
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Need to sort out the carb for the Comet. Not sure I want to spend the money on a GP carb though. Unfortunately a new carb is £375.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reppyboyo wrote:
Its a carb.


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It's not just ANY carb though!

I take it this is for the badger walli?
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is for the Badger, she has expensive tastes. The trouble is that I am at present using an Amal Concentric from the 60/70s and as I race in vintage classes there is a conflict, they require a carb with a remote float and although my GP is a modern copy of a vintage racing carb it complies with regs. Whilst I was loosing it was not a problem but the bike is getting quicker and is rising up the leader-board and there have been murmurings of discontent.
BTW the float chamber is another £100.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats so good about an Amal carb ?
Is there really not a jap or other make that can do it cheaper and better ?

I am genuinely interested in what makes it so good .. as I have heard of Amal, but thats it.
Had a quick look on ebay.. and even old grotty ones with bits missing are going for a fait few quid.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

For that much money I would tie the Badger to the back of my 'busa and tow you to the line Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's a bit dear! Why not use an old SU carb? The HS type have a separate float chamber, so would presumably satisfy the regs. Available from about £10 used.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
Whats so good about an Amal carb ?
Is there really not a jap or other make that can do it cheaper and better ?


Not a lot compared to modern carbs, but they were good for their time and it seems the regs demand it.

As to the SU, a fairly crude carb. Suspect Walli wants the same or more power, not less and worse throttle response.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:43 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
Whats so good about an Amal carb ?
Is there really not a jap or other make that can do it cheaper and better ?

I am genuinely interested in what makes it so good .. as I have heard of Amal, but thats it.
Had a quick look on ebay.. and even old grotty ones with bits missing are going for a fait few quid.


There are many better modern carbs but as vintage racing carbs go the Amal GP or TT are the ultimate. They give an unrestricted air flow as the needle is not located in the airway but off to the side in a separate chamber. No needle=more fuel and air.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
For that much money I would tie the Badger to the back of my 'busa and tow you to the line Very Happy

There may just be a reg that says we can not do that, the ACU can be picky about such minor things.
SUs are crude and finding one of the size I need is not easy.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugger me with a selection of root vegetables Shocked I'd think twice about paying that for the whole bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

check these out wali

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amal-GP-Carbs_W0QQitemZ300371311354QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item45ef867afa

and a float bowl

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AMAL-TT-GP-REMOTE-FLOAT-BOWL_W0QQitemZ250537182834QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item3a552e0672
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Need to sort out the carb for the Comet. Not sure I want to spend the money on a GP carb though. Unfortunately a new carb is £375.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:17 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool as hell! Thumbs Up

It looks like a 1930's mincer!

(...by that I mean a kitchen gadget for grinding meat..... not Noel Coward)
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:


Hi Tom
I am biding on the float.
The carbs are too small (29mm) and would need a referb anyway. I would expect to pay £200 in parts and labour to sort each one out if the body were worn it would need boring and sleeving and the slides and jets would all be wrong for my set up.
I have been watching stuff on Ebay for months and sometimes cheap is expensive. There was a guy at Stafford with a 35mm GP like I want and he wanted £250 for it, by the time I had sorted it like I need it it would have cost a lot more than a new one.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can see why you need a big period carb that performs, but Fook me thats alot of money!

I was thinking that a new Kehin PWK33 for my KMX project was alot of cash to spend on a carb, but i reckon a BDK engine re-build and tune would come in at less than that tbh!
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Can see why you need a big period carb that performs, but Fook me thats alot of money!


Tell me about it! I have been watching the market for six months, ebay and shows, yesterday I did a jumble at Gaydon and talked carb to a lot of dealers. I decided to bite the bullet today and buy new because it is cheaper. I hope it works as well as I hope, all the spec is from what I have learned from the concentric including a huge main jet of 660.
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PostPosted: 01:04 - 01 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know full well that carburettors are for poofs.

Man up and fit one of these:
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 01 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

fit a used K301 from an old Dnepr or Ural!
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 01 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You know full well that carburettors are for poofs.

Man up and fit one of these:


I have one of those, never fitted it to a bike but it looks good on the shelf. You need to modify the fuel tank to ensure you have a constant head of pressure to feed the injector as it is run without a float.
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