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PostPosted: 17:27 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Keeping a bike outside. Reply with quote

As title, i have always had a garage so never worried about weather damage, extra security.

What should i be doing to keep my bike in good condition and safe?

I was looking at those metal containers, but at £700 are they worth it? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/321293248300?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0

This is that garden, out of camera to the left it goes along by another 15ft, and there is a 8ft wall that side. And where the picture is taken from is a raised patio area about 15ft X 25. https://lc.zoocdn.com/ead7fcd7b999724ad54d32981983f749b88a050c.jpg

The bike i choose won't be massively expensive, between £1000- £2000

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PostPosted: 17:34 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A ground anchor and a bike cover !
something like
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OXFORD-AQUATEX-MEDIUM-MOTORCYCLE-SILVER/dp/B000R57XJY/ref=tag_stp_s2_edpp_url


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PostPosted: 17:35 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you allowed to drill in to the walls of both building?

Could hook up a tarp or plastic sheeting.

I keep my bike outside under an alcove and a bike cover and its kept pretty dry. just make sure the wind can't blow the cover off.

I'm not allowed to drill into the walls or drive way so I've got a disk lock and it's flippin loud.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother with a container, you're already paying out nearly half the value of the bike you're trying to keep safe, save it for insurance or something Razz

Vented waterproof cover, almax or other good chain, ground anchor, alarm disc lock would be enough for me personally.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at that photo makes me think of a lean-to.

Whatever you do, get some ACF-50 and a ground anchor.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenchWench wrote:
Are you allowed to drill in to the walls of both building?

Could hook up a tarp or plastic sheeting.

I keep my bike outside under an alcove and a bike cover and its kept pretty dry. just make sure the wind can't blow the cover off.

I'm not allowed to drill into the walls or drive way so I've got a disk lock and it's flippin loud.


Not sure about drilling into the wall's as i haven't actually moved in waiting for my references better not ask that now I'll wait until i have signed my contract. But i can't see it being a problem so could be a viable option. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless its a solid concrete wall its probably better off putting the anchor on the ground. Much easier to bring something heavy down on the anchor and smash it out the wall if its mounted on the side of something. Ground ones in concrete will be solid. I have mine positioned so its between the two wheels behind the bike which acts as a blocker so its hard to get at it or the chain with any large tools.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have something similar to this and they are pretty good.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Waterproof-Motor-Bike-Folding-Cover-Storage-Shed-Shelter-Outdoor-Tent-Garage-New-/121126677954?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item1c33b66dc2
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
Do you live in a scrote area?

Mine and the mrs' bikes (my B6, her SV650) lived outside in the front garden for about 2 years, until we sold them. Good quality covers, and a couple of chains were all we used.


It's not that bad of a area, better than where i live currently but i have a garage now. ( no bike so its juts has a friends car in it)

I had a look at lean to idea surely it wouldn't be too hard to build myself? Then get a anchor and some decent locks as suggested.


Bene - i looked at them also, i suppose it depends what bike i end up getting, will it fit a goldwing Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judging from that photo i think I would definitely go down the ground anchor route with a fuck off chain. It seems fairly tucked away so pretty much rules out the opportunist passer by.

I really can't see how they would get through a big chain without using an angle grinder but I might be wrong (probable).
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine ,has large cover, good heavy duty chain and lock...and I park my car across the opening....
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were me I'd get one of those go-go-gadget bike tents. They look sturdy enough and good value.

I was thinking about a standard garden shed if you can find one deep enough to back a bike in to, it would be a good place to hang up your kit up as well.

It would also cost a lot less than £700 Shocked

Chuck in a ground anchor and job's a good'n.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

IME a 'Y' anchor, 16mm chain and abloy 362 would be enough to prevent most theives. Although I've had no attempt on my bikes as they're hidden in the shed. If you can build yourself a secure shed that's concreted into the ground and locked with a security bar/ shutter lock you will be good to go IMO Thumbs Up

If I was a theif a big chain wouldn't really put me off, having to break into a secure shed just to know what tools I would need to steal the bike and possibly alerting the owners would though. You're more likely to have them follow you in a van then nick it while you're shopping etc Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bene wrote:


I also have one of these and paid about £100 for it. It sometimes lets a couple of drips in but considering the weather we've had this winter I think it's pretty good value. Much less faff to get the bike in and out than a cover and those oxford covers are shite (they're waterproof for about a week).

I would reccomend getting a ground anchor and chain to tie down the opening bit if you were to get one as mine now has a rip in the fabric due to the wind blowing it open rather violently. Or alternatively just put something heavy over the front bar (this is what I do).
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: Keeping a bike outside. Reply with quote

I would definitely look at least putting a roof up. Without drilling walls (which would be ideal), you could put a wooden frame in which would be fairly well wedged in - then either drill the floor or make sure it's decently weighted down/wedged in.

Because you've got the sides already, you shouldn't need too much.

Also then a nice place to work on the bike if need be, out of the elements.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
You can buy plates that you bolt to the ground, which you can put vertical wood lengths into, to build a frame. They'll have a special name no doubt, but fucked if I can remember it.

I know B&Q and Wickes definitely sell them though.


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PostPosted: 20:40 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay okay, post anchor/support/shoe. Bolt down is the key word.

Not ideal if you're thinking of building your lean-to on a patio though..
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get the oxford cover don't put it on a hot bike or it will melt. Also attach a bungee to the fastening device that goes under the bike as it's a pain to get under and latched in without!
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 10 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't advise on security, as virtually nothing gets nicked over here, so it's not something I have to protect against.

However, if kept outside, I would use plenty of ACF 50 on the bike and only put a cover on when its not windy.k
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 11 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave70 wrote:
I can't advise on security, as virtually nothing gets nicked over here, so it's not something I have to protect against.

However, if kept outside, I would use plenty of ACF 50 on the bike and only put a cover on when its not windy.k


Only cover when windy?
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