When thinking about whom to vote for:

[MarJay]

Don't forget that:

the Conservatives want to scrap the costly and totalitarian ID card scheme (papers please!).

The Conservatives claim that they can make efficiency savings. Lets face it, all parties are going to raise taxes with the current financial state we're in, but the Conservatives will raise them the least.

The Conservatives want to reduce the size of government by 10%

Brown claims that he can keep the economy going by spending lots of money we don't have. Surely thats what got us into this mess in the first place?

Why should we listen to Labour promises when they've had 13 years to make good on them? All they've done is ban handguns, ban smoking, make it harder to pass a bike test, introduce the DNA database, ID cards, Anti Terror legislation (which is used against ordinary people, seldom against terrorists) and generally made the UK a harder place to conduct a law abiding life. They are authoritarian almost to the point of dictatorship.

Kick 'em out. The only realistic alternative is the Conservatives. Vote Clegg, Get Brown. Even if the conservatives get a greater share of the vote and Labour come third, they could still get the most seats in the Commons. That would be bad.

Maybe a Con-Lib coalition would be good - introduce Proportional representation, cancel ID cards, Cancel trident replacement...

Shame it won't happen due to unwarranted left wing hatred of the Conservatives.
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[Hetzer]

And you apparently believe a bunch of promises made by a political party.

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[MarJay]

[Ste]

"Cannabis cafes would be permitted under secret Liberal Democrat plans.

A leaked policy document calls for the decriminalisation of the drug in an approach even more radical than Amsterdam’s.

The paper also suggests allowing possession of cannabis, social supply to adults and cultivation of the plants for personal use."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1269649/General-Election-2010-Lib-Dems-secret-plan-high-street-cannabis-cafes.html?ITO=1490

[Hetzer]

Neither is it good to have the same two corrupt parties see-sawing in and out of power for the last 65 years. So vote Lib-Dem. What's the worst that can happen, a hung parliament? Actually that's the best thing that can happen.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Interesting cock up here:-

https://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/KERRY-TWIT/article-2092774-detail/article.html

All the best

Keith
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[Itchy]

[crowe]

heh Itchy your posts always amuse me . Are you a Sociology/Social research lecturer at Teesside University by any chance? Reading your comments is like my 4 years at uni all over again



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[pa_broon74]

I don't think it matters who you vote for, the next couple of years are going to be interesting regardless.

On balance though and since I've never voted labour ever, I have to rule them out.

So Lib Dem or Tory (if you're in England.) I don't think one would necessarily worse than the other.


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[ms51ves3]

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I really don't understand why people would want to see this man running the country.

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[Hetzer]

[panrider_uk]

[Itchy]

[ms51ves3]

[Robby]

I keep thinking of the same old quote:

"People vote labour in with their hearts, and out with their pockets"

Also one of the conservative election messages sticks in my hesd:

"We can't go on like this"


It's worth considering that you're voting for a party, not one man. Brown and Blair have both acted far more like a president, and Thatcher did a fair bit too. Our election campaigns are turning to the American model also, where the onus is on the prospective PM rather than the party as a whole.
I would like to think that a conservative or liberal democrat PM would delegate more responsibility to their ministers, as Blair did to an extent. Brown has not done this, as I have seen a fair bit in the civil service with many more decisions being referred up to the PM rather than taken by ministers. This raises a problem where the PM has very little knowledge of the subject area and is basing his decision on a few pages of brief and a few hours at most of advice from civil servants (with an interest in serving the country and furthering their career) and his political advisers (with an interest in protecting the reputation of the party). The minister that is better qualified to make the decision and has far more understanding of the subject area should be better placed to make the decision, in consultation with other ministers that have an interest in that policy area. To give an example, the decision on Heathrow should have been mainly taken by the ministers for transport, business, and environment.

If we get a conversative government, I am confident that the next few five years are going to be bleak with rises in tax and cuts in public spending. They are likely to reduce the defecit significantly, and be hugely unpopular. They have little chance of winning the election in 5 years unless they get us really set up to make money by exporting goods and knowledge, which is where he green economy idea comes from. Climate change being true or not, if we can crack cost effective renewable energy in the UK we can make a lot of money, fossil fuel supplies are always going down and cost is always going up. Nuclear is politically unpopular and will continue to be for as long as I live even if there is never another incident.

The Hetzer point of voting for who you want to rape you dry is valid. None of the big political parties, or any of the smaller ones, I agree with 100% based on their election pledges. I know that they won't deliver on these pledges, and will pursue other ideas that I find hugely offensive, but people will still vote. My duty is to vote for the party that I think will serve me best on balance.

Of course, if you vote labour then you will probably have another two or three years of being quite comfortable, but when it all falls down and the UK defecit pushes us into a Greece situation, we'll be totally fucked for a very long time. The most likely solution would be a big war, which we would lose.

So to try and have a relatively secure future I'll vote conservative. I'll stay in my current area in the civil service in the knowledge that it's guaranteed to be secure with the tradeoff that I could get promoted faster in more risky areas, and try to attain some internationally recognised qualifications so that I can look for employment elsewhere in the world if the UK tanks.

There is also the simple little fact that the conservatives have experience with managing money, and little respect for dolescum. Once in power they would hopefully cast aside some of the cuddly image and get a bit more hardline on tax dodgers, and less knee-jerky than labour have been. The lib dems have some great ideas and come across well, and I respect that they talk straight and give answers that are fairly true, but unfortunately their straight and true answers often go against what I want.

Chives, who do you plan on voting for, and why?

[Itchy]

[panrider_uk]

[Hetzer]

[panrider_uk]

Lib-Dem are too far behind, in this constituency, to have any chance so it'd be a wasted vote for me.

Mark
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