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Sparks!
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 04 Apr 2010    Post subject: Africa Twin off - road.... Reply with quote

Suprisingly capable even on road tyres! The lane was a LOT wetter and boggier than I was expecting Laughing road tyres aren't ideal especially on a big old africa twin but it handled it fairly well just had to watch the front end Laughing

https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff19/sparkscw/Honda%20Africa%20Twin/atofforoad4410.jpg

Who needs a side stand?

https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff19/sparkscw/Honda%20Africa%20Twin/atofforoad4410-2.jpg

Some deep puddles! One of them was deeper than the wheel and as there was loads of cyclists/kids I gave it some throttle and dissapeared under a wet muddy tidal wave Laughing

https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff19/sparkscw/Honda%20Africa%20Twin/atofforoad4410-3.jpg

Did I mention that you need to watch the front end? Front end seemed to go walkabouts in a rather slippery section, cue me doing a superman over the front Laughing

I don't know what all the worry about picking up is, maybe my years of stunt riding and learning to pick the CBR up helped me but the AT is a doddle to lift up.

https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff19/sparkscw/Honda%20Africa%20Twin/atofforoad4410-4.jpg

Now it's all muddy, looks much better! Mr. Green

https://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff19/sparkscw/Honda%20Africa%20Twin/atofforoad4410-5.jpg

When it is dry and the lanes have dried out I'd probably be happy to tackle the long route on it, pretty sure it'll be fine provided the trails are dry! I'd prob be happy to do it now if I fitted some knobbilies, but not really much point when I've got the WR Smile
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 04 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do really do well. Quite jealous tbh would absolutely love one. Someone i know just picked up a reasonable condition Super Tenre for £350 and only needs a tiny bit of work doing!
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 04 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: Africa Twin off - road.... Reply with quote

The weight's certainly not going to help, but the front end's going to be more down to the road tyres. You do get used to it, but a lot of it is just letting it do what it will with very gentle persuasion towards the direction you want to go Smile.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 04 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: Africa Twin off - road.... Reply with quote

G wrote:
The weight's certainly not going to help, but the front end's going to be more down to the road tyres. You do get used to it, but a lot of it is just letting it do what it will with very gentle persuasion towards the direction you want to go Smile.


Yeah definetly the road tyres, both tyres were doing there own thing, I just kept the throttle steady and moved my weight around as neccessary to keep it up right, no big problem really just one bit caught me out and I did a superman over the front hence the pic hehe....

I thought the heavy XR440 taught me a thing or two, but I tihnk the AT is the headmaster of teaching off road Laughing makes my WR426 feel like a push bike Laughing

Can't wait to buy some TKC80's and do some proper off road on it.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 04 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: Africa Twin off - road.... Reply with quote

If you're looking for tyres that can be used sensibly on road but are intended for off road, I can strongly recommend MT21s. They won't do the total distance of the TKC80, but are a decent chunk better in the mud I believe (haven't used the TKC80 in anger off road) - they are still ok on the road too, though obviously you won't be doing too well on a track day Smile.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 04 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you will find that that front mudguard was probably the direct source of the problems!! Wink

That will clag with mud in no time and lock/slow the front wheel ... and then you will go down like a sack of plops!! ...

Good effort though ... and I thought you were too poorly to ride at the mo!? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 04 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
Think you will find that that front mudguard was probably the direct source of the problems!! Wink

That will clag with mud in no time and lock/slow the front wheel ... and then you will go down like a sack of plops!! ...

Good effort though ... and I thought you were too poorly to ride at the mo!? Rolling Eyes


My knee is getting better, its no where near as bad as it was, although I've been back on my tools this weekend on a job and it's been playing up a bit, theres no way I'm doing some proper laning just yet but I'm pretty sure it won't be long before I risk it again Cool

As for the front mudguard, that probably doesn't help but I think I only dropped it cos it was slippery, road tyres and I was getting a bit over-confident Laughing Changing the front mudguard is on my list of things to do, saw Korn do the same thing and it looks pretty good as well as being more useful off road etc so definetly on my list of things to do Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throw knobblies on it if you're planning on doing anything remotely muddy, makes a world of difference. TKC 80s are lovely but don't last very long on tarmac, and the front feels a little funny under any serious braking but nothing you can't get used to... I did quite a few laps of the 'ring with mine which was a laugh Razz

As for the mudguard, get rid of it ASAP. Stock one looks fugly and clogs up with all kinds of shit. All you need is a "universal enduro fender" jobbie and some bits from B&Q. Like so:

https://www.ufoplast.com/en/product-details/mx-enduro/universal-spare-parts/PA01014

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010014.jpg

The bigger bolt is an expanding rawl-bolt type thing, buy one the correct diameter and stick it up into the bottom yoke. The two smaller bolts just fit through the existing holes.

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010031.jpg

Next get some bits of alu tube that fit over your 3 bolts (B&Q have a whole rack full of this kinda crap) and some washers. You want to cut it so there's about an inch & a half of room between the bottom of the yoke and the new mudguard, so it clears everything correctly. Drill some holes for the 3 bolts to slip through.

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010044.jpg

Stick the mudguard up with washers at either end of the alu tubing spacers, then check to see if it clears everything properly at full lock either way. If it doesn't, go make longer spacers; if it does, cut off the excess bolt length and you're done...

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010045.jpg
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korn wrote:
Throw knobblies on it if you're planning on doing anything remotely muddy, makes a world of difference. TKC 80s are lovely but don't last very long on tarmac, and the front feels a little funny under any serious braking but nothing you can't get used to... I did quite a few laps of the 'ring with mine which was a laugh Razz

As for the mudguard, get rid of it ASAP. Stock one looks fugly and clogs up with all kinds of shit. All you need is a "universal enduro fender" jobbie and some bits from B&Q. Like so:

https://www.ufoplast.com/en/product-details/mx-enduro/universal-spare-parts/PA01014

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010014.jpg

The bigger bolt is an expanding rawl-bolt type thing, buy one the correct diameter and stick it up into the bottom yoke. The two smaller bolts just fit through the existing holes.

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010031.jpg

Next get some bits of alu tube that fit over your 3 bolts (B&Q have a whole rack full of this kinda crap) and some washers. You want to cut it so there's about an inch & a half of room between the bottom of the yoke and the new mudguard, so it clears everything correctly. Drill some holes for the 3 bolts to slip through.

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010044.jpg

Stick the mudguard up with washers at either end of the alu tubing spacers, then check to see if it clears everything properly at full lock either way. If it doesn't, go make longer spacers; if it does, cut off the excess bolt length and you're done...

https://www.kornel.com/gallery/albums/Africa%20Twin/normal_P6010045.jpg


Saw that in your pictures a while ago, many thanks for the further information on how it was fitted Thumbs Up it's on my to do list along with driving lights like you have and a higher screen! But unfortunately I'm still trying to sort out the general things that are wrong with it, just replaced the front calipers but seems the discs are ridiculously warped so now they need replacing as well Rolling Eyes

Getting there slowly but surely, still looks a bit tatty though annoyingly, will have to strip some bits and get some painting done after my first trip..
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 23 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparks! wrote:
it's on my to do list along with driving lights like you have and a higher screen!

The side spots are really useful if you ever plan on doing any trails in the dark. With the throw of just the headlight alone you can't see anything until a few yards out from the bike otherwise...

Also if you get a high screen don't get a tinted one, as it fucks with your field of view a little. Mine came with the tinted one when I bought it and it was a huge pain in the tits off road - clear is much better Thumbs Up

Sparks! wrote:
Getting there slowly but surely, still looks a bit tatty though annoyingly, will have to strip some bits and get some painting done after my first trip..


It's meant to be tatty! If it's ever clean for more than a few hours at a time then you're using it wrong Razz
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