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PostPosted: 21:16 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Cheap? Chain Lubricant Reply with quote

I can't think of anything myself so i guess i'm asking on the off-chance, but does anyone know a properly cheap way of lubricating my bike's chain (and no, i don't consider the £7/£8 cans of chain lubricant "cheap" enough considering how quickly i seem to get through them - i'm a student and that's the equivalent of a day or so of my student loan each time!), bar the Loobman chain oiler (which i don't really get on with well as it occassionally moves around).

The idea of trying to "paint" 10W40 oil onto the chain regularly doesn't appeal either, unless someone has worked out a way of applying it that's less of an annoyance (maybe something from a container - i don't currently have the luxury of a garage or anywhere readily accessible to store loose containers of oil and paintbrushes).

So any ideas? I can't imagine i'm the only person who laments buying these expensive spray cans.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used engine oil and a paint brush, if you are uber poor go round a mechanics place and ask if they have some saves them a trek to the local dump.


Beware it is messy though


If you really want to be flash you can buy the uber cheap £8 for 4 litre mineral oil stuff you can find in costco and Asda and paint your chain with it, but used engine oil is what I use, I stick it in a scot oiler bottle and lube occassionally , though I do have a scot oiler anyway.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, the only cheap way is engine oil really.

Get yourself a Tutoro chain oiler -
https://www.tutorochainoiler.com/

Some cheap oil Focus DIY or similar and you are good to go
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm working my way through a bottle of chainsaw oil at the moment that Craigs23 recommended in one of his cleaning threads. Once that's run out though I'll be moving onto the old engine oil I have saved for the job Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine oil and Loobman for me. As long as you don't apply too much oil, you won't get much fling at all. Clean the chain with one of those stiff plastic brushes that has bristles around 3 sides and paraffin every couple of weeks, although the constant renewing of oil keeps it quite nice. Had the current chain running about 4k miles and not adjusted it once. Why bother with expensive chain lube? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You lube a chain every 300-400 miles.
Takes about 5ml.
Where is the expense in the hassle less system in a can of chain lube?

Why use old oil? It is full of acids and abrasive carbon.
Use fresh oil.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

loobman and old oil for me, best way of recycling old oil!

Its far better than spray cans or can oilers.

As others have said, i have never once even adjusted the chain on my old bike and I have already been past 10k miles!
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't afford a can of fucking chain lube it appears you really can't afford to own a bike. I suggest you sell it & buy a fucking bus pass. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just thinking about this today, as I haven't lubed my chain for about 3-400 miles. Although it does still look pretty well lubricated, I used the stuff Lidl had on sale recently and most of it seems to be on my back wheel and back of my number plate...

I was about to go out to halfords and buy a spray can of the castrol stuff people seem to swear by. I don't have any old engine oil, so shall I go and buy some for the job? What weight is least likely to end up all over my back wheel?

Also, how much should I paint on? I don't really have a concept of how much 5ml is. I assume you're supposed to paint it on the top and bottom of the chain as you rotate the back wheel?

Apologies for the stupid questions, I've only owned a bike for 2 months...
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
If you can't afford a can of fucking chain lube it appears you really can't afford to own a bike. I suggest you sell it & buy a fucking bus pass. Rolling Eyes


Why should I pay more for something that seems to have the exact same effect on my chain than something else that is essentially 'free'?
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

neil. wrote:
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If you can't afford a can of fucking chain lube it appears you really can't afford to own a bike. I suggest you sell it & buy a fucking bus pass. Rolling Eyes


Why should I pay more for something that seems to have the exact same effect on my chain than something else that is essentially 'free'?


I agree Thumbs Up

As for the amount to put on, you want it so the chain looks wet but with none dripping off anywhere.

I have never had much luck with chain lube in cans, the wax just tends to attract shit to the chain.
Oil is the best thing.
In my tutoro i'm currently using ep90 gear oil and it works a treat.
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
If you can't afford a can of fucking chain lube it appears you really can't afford to own a bike. I suggest you sell it & buy a fucking bus pass. Rolling Eyes


So only people with a decent disposable income are supposed to ride bikes? Is that right? Well that would be me out of it for the last 15 years then, but then since buses are more or less none existent around here I could forget about working for a living anyway. There are ways of riding and maintaining a bike of bugger all money, believe me.
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In my tutoro i'm currently using ep90 gear oil and it works a treat.
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I've used ep80/90 gear oil applied with an old toothbrush for years, in the winter I mix with a little old engine oil as well to make it last longer and I think as it's thicker then due to the cold helps thin it bit and it get into the links better. The chain, which is a cheapo non o ring one has got me through three years and has a bit left in it yet as well and that is every working day use on an 80 mile weekly commute.
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
If you can't afford a can of fucking chain lube it appears you really can't afford to own a bike. I suggest you sell it & buy a fucking bus pass. Rolling Eyes


Thats a bit unfair......

I would say unless you can be arsed to look after the bike you really need to get a bus pass Laughing

Lets face it how long does it take to paint a bit of oil on a chain once a week.. 5 mins tops.

In fact a even easier method is to get a cheap drinks bottle (one with a long straw is better) fill it with you old oil and then dribble it onto the chain while spinning the wheel round Thumbs Up
Jobs a good un and you should be able to get a bottle from a £1 shop without much trouble...

So a £1 bottle and get some fresh supermarket 20/50 for £4 for 4 ltr and that will last you over a year for a £5.... Just the same amount as you can feed a faimly of 4 from Sainsburys with Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've an oiler fitted then I'd say any engine oil old or new or even EP as beatnck2 uses would be good enough, but lacking an oiler the cheapest way of lubing your chain is with proper chain lube. You can buy a large can of Rock Oil chain lube for well under a tenner, it'll last for thousands of miles and so will your chain.

The added lifespan of your chain will easily off-set the cost of a few cans of lube. You also reduce the risk of a failiure of the chain which can cost you your engine or worse.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invest in a Tuturo (good thing is that you can remove it and put it on your next bike) for £15 or so quid (used to be a tenna) and then get some cheap light oil; I use 20W50 cheapo stuff if I cant find chainsaw oil at the garden centre. I have a squeezy tube filled with 100ml of the stuff and it's more than enough to keep me lubricated for a month. I never bother turning my chain oiler off since I have it on its max setting... Most of my journeys are longer than an hour so the chain gets a nice pasting of oil on both sides of the plates.

At the end of each week, I clean the chain with a microfibre cloth soaked in paraffin and the cycle starts again. I've only had to adjust my chain once in the last 1500 miles, at that was a slight 1/4 turn on each side to take up the slack. If you got a gold chain, it makes it look well bling too!

If you do use chain lube, you've also got to clean off the old stuff. Nothing better than wrecking a chain by not cleaning off the old lube and grinding the old crud into the o-rings!
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF your going to use oil, then try Dexron II (ATF) oil. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
A one litre bottle should cost under a fiver and it lasts for years.
It needs to be applied sparingly, a thimbleful will be enough to lube the average chain.
This chain had all the original grease removed when new; has covered 3,000 miles since then and has never been cleaned.
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are you supposed to spread a thimbleful of oil across a whole chain? I assume, at least, you only apply it to the top?
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

has any one made a chain oiler ?
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondapartsman wrote:
So only people with a decent disposable income are supposed to ride bikes? Is that right? Well that would be me out of it for the last 15 years then, but then since buses are more or less none existent around here I could forget about working for a living anyway. There are ways of riding and maintaining a bike of bugger all money, believe me.


We're talking about the price of a couple of beers here, not the national debt of the US... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

reggie wrote:
has any one made a chain oiler ?

virus tried to, but well I don't think it worked out in the end:project 'too skint to buy a scottoiler'
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
hondapartsman wrote:
So only people with a decent disposable income are supposed to ride bikes? Is that right? Well that would be me out of it for the last 15 years then, but then since buses are more or less none existent around here I could forget about working for a living anyway. There are ways of riding and maintaining a bike of bugger all money, believe me.


We're talking about the price of a couple of beers here, not the national debt of the US... Rolling Eyes


I agree with ZRX tbh. I've only got a part time job and I'm willing to bet I have less money than students yet even a can is pitiful.

Yes you can use cheaper/free stuff bu he was stating a point. If you can't afford an £8 can then how can you afford any other servicing thing?

A can usually lasts me quite awhile, 2 months or so. On the Hornet/VFR. Not exactly expensive! I did end up using old engine oil.

I used old engine oil in a spray type bottle and a toothbrush. Much cleaner way of doing it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 23 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/80/29605?r=Froogle

£4.49 ex P&P
This will last a year. ANd saves the hassle of having to buy a cleaner as it's a dry fromula.
No crud build up at the front sprocket housing either.

If you average 6k miles per year that's about 18 treatments more than enough in these cans to do that.

The trick is to lube regularly when recommended but not to drown the chain so the lube drips off on the floor. I sometimes carelessly lube the garage floor and it never helps my chain. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 24 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer the earlier question, its applied onto the top of the rollers on the lower run with a watercolour paintbrush, it then spreads over the rest of the chain during use.

I use ATF not because of a cost issue but because it is excellent for use as a chain lubricant. The chain in the photo has been adjusted just once in those three thousand miles (just one flat on the hex bolt adjuster) and certainly wont need further adjustment for many more miles to come.

As a bonus it attracts extremely little road grit which just acts as a grinding paste on the sprockets anyway. I've been using it on various bikes for many years now and wouldn't consider anything else, even if it was given to me.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 24 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarification. I think I'll go ahead and use your method.
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