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PostPosted: 10:43 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: [HELP!] Best place to get rear shocks? Reply with quote

It would appear that no matter what direction preload and damping settings are turned it makes no difference from being solid? Failed MOT due to this, wemoto have them for £280 and have to be ordered in, seems a hell of a lot of money albeit Hagon.

Any other makes of shock or best place to look?
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay second hand? Otherwise I'm fairly sure hagon do the cheapest shocks.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Ebay second hand? Otherwise I'm fairly sure hagon do the cheapest shocks.


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PostPosted: 11:42 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Before you run away and buy a new shock, are you 100% sure that it isn't just the linkage that is seized? If I were you I'd try and strip the linkages first and see if they are in good moveable condition. If they are, then you do need a new shock. If they aren't then a strip, clean up, regrease, maybe some replacement bushes is in order.

I find it very hard to believe that your shock itself has seized, its much much more likely to be linkages. Karma
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I agree with Marjay. Shocks rarely seize (although I have had one seize though on the Diversion I had, think the piston rings in the damper came out and jammed the piston). Seized linkages are rather more likely.

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PostPosted: 13:18 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been having a similar problem with the 350, one of the shocks are leaking so i feel i best change them both fairly soon. Wemoto came up with normal black ones for £60 Chrome ones for £68 and Hagon ones for £138 Shocked Who was it who said Hagons were the cheap ones? Although the others could just be mega cheap ones Thinking

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Ebay second hand?


I've had a look on ebay and i think its safe to say they dont really do them, I've typed in a few different searches (Rear shocks, rear suspension etc) And it only came up with one for a ford escort or something! Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 13:25 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to find a brand new monoshock for cheaper than Hagon Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Hagon stuff is well made and rebuildable. Worth spending the money if you are keeping the bike for a while. There might well be people making cheaper shocks though

Also have a look to see if any other shock fit in easily. Did see one web site that mentioned fitting GSX600 teapot rear shocks to a GS500, and it wouldn't surprise me if 600 Bandit ones are a close fit as well.

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PostPosted: 13:32 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

what bike is it for??
trx??
maybe ask dudes on ebay for dimensions of other yamm shocks,
r1 r6 thunderace
etc etc
with the gs500 there were heaps of shocks that you could get in there,
gsx sv650, rgv250 bandit 4, ect ect,
im sure there is something interchangeable out there
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try to find a brand new monoshock for cheaper than Hagon


Well yeah i suppose when you put it that way Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well tried to look at the shock linkages and managed to bend a dog bone and break the bearing that the lower one sits through!

Never, ever let me touch anything!

Popped out for a paddock stand as the bike was sitting on the floor and then balanced against the garage wall. No paddock stands so car jacks will have to do.

Got a second hand linkage and dog bones coming from eBay so will have to wait a few days to fix this problem before looking at sorting the shock out.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try www.gissit.com for the shock; free partfinder website, I've turned up a few bargains from there Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tell the MOT guy its a kawasaki rear shock and they are all like that!
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Well tried to look at the shock linkages and managed to bend a dog bone and break the bearing that the lower one sits through!

How the hell did you do that? Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sold the rear shock from my Z, in immaculate condition (ie Never saw rain, washed after every ride, with 5K on it).

It went for £30.

Some fecker got a bargain.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: [HELP!] Best place to get rear shocks? Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
It would appear that no matter what direction preload and damping settings are turned it makes no difference from being solid? Failed MOT due to this, wemoto have them for £280 and have to be ordered in, seems a hell of a lot of money albeit Hagon.

Any other makes of shock or best place to look?



With an arse the size of yours, im surprised you need more "shock absorbing" Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Whosthedaddy wrote:
Well tried to look at the shock linkages and managed to bend a dog bone and break the bearing that the lower one sits through!

How the hell did you do that? Shocked


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PostPosted: 23:53 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:33 - 02 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the TRX? The references to other random bikes is confusing me!
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 02 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont know what experiences other people have had with Hagon, but personally i don't think i'd buy one for my bike now.

They aren't MUCH cheaper than other alternatives, and when my brother enquired about getting the spring re-powdered on his R100, the after-sales service he got was very poor.

It was very much a case of:

"You cant rebuild that, we have to do it".
"We wont tell you how to do it, even if you want to, we have to do it".
"Oh, you've got the spring out already, well post it to us, with an extra £25 to ship it back to you, and we'll see how much it'll cost for us to paint it for you".
"No, we cant give an approximate cost over the phone".
"Oh, by the way, we can do the spring in any colour, as long as its red".

Had it powdercoated locally eventually in the same colour as the frame, etc, and IMHO the finish is probably better than it was to start with anyway.

Its a real shame, because they've recently released a "lightweight" alloy shock for the BMW K-series that is £179.50 instead of the normal £295, and it has a black spring like the original, but to be honest, i don't see the point in giving them my trade if they don't treat their customers well, no matter how cheap they are.

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PostPosted: 15:35 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:
This is the TRX? The references to other random bikes is confusing me!


Bless the internet and tangents.

Sorry no pics but some good news and some bad?

Managed to source some new dog bones as one had become bent on the dismantle then thought I better look for some linkage bearings only to find the whole linkage unit and dog bones as one. So, if anyone wants a set of risers for a TRX you know who to call.

Wink

Bit of a faff with a mixture of jack, stands and the wife, getting things in the right place was a little harder than it could have been. God bless Red Neck engineering on my behalf. Health and safety do not come knocking please.

All bearings removed and greased.

All linkages move and when not attached to the linkages the swing arm moves freely.

Back together the bike has some compression but not much, bounces down a little but then stops and doesn't rebound.

Upshot is now waiting for a second hand shock and reservoir.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: [HELP!] Best place to get rear shocks? Reply with quote

drzsta wrote:
With an arse the size of yours, im surprised you need more "shock absorbing" Laughing


Noxious89123 wrote:
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 07 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old shock out and new one in and the its like sitting on a bouncy castle. How stiff or rigid must the last one really have been to get used to that as a norm?

All 3 of the adjustments really need to be fine tuned as god knows how its previously been set up but it works and thats the main thing.

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