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PostPosted: 19:05 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: How secure is it to 'Borrow' WIFI? Reply with quote

Hi,
I've just moved into a new house and before i've been able to get my own connection i've been borrowing one from the few unsecured networks we have round here.

Today my GF has checked her bank to find that £70 has gone missing from her account. She paid for the TV licence online using one of the unsecured networks (Silly i know).

Is it possible to see someones card details if conencting through the internet on one of these unsecure networks? Even if the server has SSL?

Cheers,
Shaun.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unsecured networks are only meant to be used for putting horse porn on your neighbours computers. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been "borrowing" from secure (wep) networks forever.

google spoonwep and you will find out how.

I have bitten the bullet and ordered my own inet connection cos then i have control over when stuff gets downloaded so that i can go on xbl with out getting lag.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure it wasnt the fee for the telly licence thats come out?
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd have to be trying quite hard to get someone's card details through a router, I'm not sure it is even possible?
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crazymotorbik...
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

Cheers for the replies.

Its definetly not the TV licence; Her bank said it was a compnay called Yes Loans.

Well thats put my mind at ease.

Cheers again,
Shaun.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
You'd have to be trying quite hard to get someone's card details through a router, I'm not sure it is even possible?


Plant a keylogger.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
ncrn wrote:
You'd have to be trying quite hard to get someone's card details through a router, I'm not sure it is even possible?


Plant a keylogger.


In a router?

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PostPosted: 22:22 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
ncrn wrote:
You'd have to be trying quite hard to get someone's card details through a router, I'm not sure it is even possible?


Plant a keylogger.


Yeah I guess if you had your PC set up for network sharing they could do that. Kinda your own fault if you connect to a public network with sharing enabled though Laughing.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus they'd actually have to run it...

Anything of importance (cerdit cards, gmail, etc) uses SSL so regardless of how insecure the wireless is and who's listening, your details will be fine.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably more likely that someone has got her bank details from post going to your old address I would have thought....
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 13 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has your girlfriend phoned up for a quote for a loan recently? Yes loans are a dodgy broker that charge you a £70 admin fee to search for a loan you won't get.

There is a post on Money Saving Expert about them.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=388793&page=5
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 13 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

No she has definetly hasn't contacted Yes loans.

We have a sneaky suspicion that its the b*stards now living in our old flat.

When i moved in here i rang anglian water to be told i owed them backdated charges on my old property. I told them that i moved out of my old place over 8 months ago!!!
Same story for gas and electricty; excpet we found out they had been changed into my GF's name!

Not a happy chappy.
Cheers,
Shaun.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 14 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymotorbiker wrote:
Hey,

No she has definetly hasn't contacted Yes loans.

We have a sneaky suspicion that its the b*stards now living in our old flat.

When i moved in here i rang anglian water to be told i owed them backdated charges on my old property. I told them that i moved out of my old place over 8 months ago!!!
Same story for gas and electricty; excpet we found out they had been changed into my GF's name!

Not a happy chappy.
Cheers,
Shaun.


Don't you cancel your accounts when you move?
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 14 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:24 - 14 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
In a router?

Rolling Eyes


No.

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