CG smoking!!

[N cee thirty]

well all of a sudden,my cg's started to smoke and burn oil so ye the rings must have gone?

the tappets have started to be louder aswell at the same time it started to smoke,any connection? cheers
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[Frost]

Sounds like it. It's not an expensive job on a CG, probably about £15 for the rings, about the same again for a head gasket, just need to find out of the cylinder is okay or not.

[radical]

Sounds like the bike has been run without oil for too long., you will probably need a rebore, oversize piston and rings plus a new camshaft as the hardened face has probably worn off which would cause the tappets to rattle. The pushrods and followers will probably be badly worn as well, there is little point in replacing one worn/faulty component without replacing them all. You would need to work out if the bike is worth that ammount of work plus you dont know what other damage/wear has been caused to the main bearing and crankshaft.

[N cee thirty]

how long will it last if i just fill the oil up each time ?
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[radical]

Rob, it sounds like your oil control ring is broken and possibly your two compression rings as well. Dont ride the bike at all until the rings at least have been replaced as you will cause much more expensive damage and you will risk as seizure. Please dont even consider using the bike as you could end up causing yourself serious injury.

[N cee thirty]

hmm abit of a epic fail as i need to ride it 60 miles to work tommorow.
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[Frost]

It will last hundreds, maybe even thousands of miles yet, but the amount of smoking coming out and the oil drank will only ever get worse.

[radical]

Rob, it is honestly too dangerous as if the bike burns its oil the crank could seize or you could have a piston seizure due to the already damaged piston, bore and broken rings, it aint worth it, been there done that and still have the scars to prove it.

[N cee thirty]

[Teflon-Mike]

Of corse it COULD just be the valve stem seals have fallen off....
Does it smoke on acceleration, over run, or all the time?
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[Frost]

I hadn't considered them, certainly worth checking as it requires minimal tools etc

[fiery tupp]

I wouln't ride it for 6 miles never mind 60 you best take a gallon of oil with you & top up every 5 miles & hope it dont seize:tut:
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[N cee thirty]

well me and CHR15 just toke the top end of and its not too bad,oil scraper ring was seized and the pistons on its last legs.

not smoking now that he unsiezed the the ring but needs a fare few new parts.
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[radical]

Rob, check the camshaft as if its worn out then the rest of the engine is hardly worth the hassle of fixing and the cost would be very high.

[Alexio]

[N cee thirty]

its all back together working for now,am ordering parts and will just have to take it easy
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[P.]

its a CG....it will last you for a while yet..
just use semi cheap oil anyway, no point burning that nice stuff

[Frost]

Morrissons do very cheap oil, like £3 for 4 litres kind of cheap!

[Alexio]

I agree. It's about £1.69 currently for a litre of oil (20w50) from Morrisons which my CG is absolutely loving right now
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ms51ves3: why does it need 500 miles? Are you teaching it how to be a piston?

[N cee thirty]

[bikertomm]

How much miles has she done? Just curious ...

Cheers
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[N cee thirty]

well rode the 60 miles today and it seemed to be ok

still burning oil,but not as much as before

still abit tappy though
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

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[N cee thirty]