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wyldkat81
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: CBT Passed - advice needed Reply with quote

Hey all, well, after the 2nd time of taking CBT I was passed (just)!

No serious mistakes just falling off and cut a corner on two turns and not being able to ....(ashamed to say, because I did it perfectly in the test centre)...to do a U-Turn!!

Anyway, I passed on Friday and have been out on my bike twice yesterday and again today but I was after some advice from the ancient knowledge of the elders!!

I've got an old Suzuki gp100, two stroke engine.

I have noticed that I'm having trouble with pulling away from being stationary, I can't seem to get a quick get away.
I know it doesn't have the best pull away power out there but was wandering if there are any tips to get away quicker as it's a little embarrassing when the lights go green and I'm chugging away really slowly, especially when it's a hill start as well, even more effort to put in.

If I'm approaching a junction/lights and have had to switch down into first gear but then DON'T have to stop, it gets going real quick, it seems to only struggle on the stationary pull offs.

Many thanks
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: CBT Passed - advice needed Reply with quote

wyldkat81 wrote:
I can't seem to get a quick get away.


Take your time to learn how to do it slowly and properly, then you can speed up the process.

When you know you are going to get moving make sure the bike is in gear, foot on the rear brake and find the bite point. Ease off the clutch and give it a bit of gas when you do want to start. Go find a carpark somewhere quiet and use the lines as imaginary junctions and practice practice PRACTICE.

And congratulations on getting your CBT done Smile
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Mord
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: CBT Passed - advice needed Reply with quote

wyldkat81 wrote:

I've got an old Suzuki gp100, two stroke engine.

I have noticed that I'm having trouble with pulling away from being stationary, I can't seem to get a quick get away.

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it seems to only struggle on the stationary pull offs.



You need to slip the clutch, mate. Just practice.

And two stroke needs a bit higher revs to pull. I don't know GP100, but my RS125 pulled away nicely when I was keeping revs above 6k rpm while moving off..

As I said above.. clutch control is what you need.
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Ichy
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once your moving just slam the throttle open! On a small bike you have very little risk of lifting the front or spinning the rear.

Seriously, just get used to slipping the clutch and the rest will follow.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:
Once your moving just slam the throttle open! On a small bike you have very little risk of lifting the front or spinning the rear.

Seriously, just get used to slipping the clutch and the rest will follow.


On my old gp125 I managed to lift the front up EVERY time I did a quick pull away, surprisingly nippy for what they are.

When you say you find it difficult to pull away, when you go to do the revs drop a lot.......or should I ask what revs roughly are you doing at pull off?
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Ichy
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PostPosted: 05:45 - 26 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't disagree that you can lift the front when pulling off, particularly on a small two stroke. But I don't think you would be able to power wheelie a CG.

Its all down to clutch and throttle control. You've done the basic training now build up your confidence and learn to ride. In time you will not be thinking of 'clutch in, twist throttle a bit, slowly release clutch.....etc', it changes to a very simple 'go!'. You will be surprised at how quickly it all flows together after a few hours on the road.
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Nemo
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 26 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:
I don't disagree that you can lift the front when pulling off, particularly on a small two stroke. But I don't think you would be able to power wheelie a CG


I know you can't, but he hasn't got a cg Wink

But 2 strokes do need more getting used to, i just got my first 4 stroke and it took me a while to get used to pulling away without all the revs....
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly, stop panicing. You pay your road tax, same as everybody else, you have just as much right to be there and ride at your own pace that you and other road users are safe. You have L plates on for a reason, to let other road users know your a "novice". Spend time just getting used to the clutch, if you have an industrial estate by you then pop down there in the evenings, just practice pulling away. When you run out of road, practice your u-turn if you're not confident in doing it. the trick is to look right back down the road where you want to be facing with your chin up, don't be scared of turning, the bike doesn't want to fall over either.

All down to practice and slipping the clutch. We have all been there, it may take people a few minutes, it might take people a few weeks, but it'll come to you Smile
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