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 Gavit L Plate Warrior
Joined: 06 May 2010 Karma :  
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 Posted: 20:45 - 22 Jul 2010 Post subject: Rescue me from East German Farm Machinery! FUNNY!!! |
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After a break of 22 years I have decided to get back into the fine activity of motorcycling. I had, hiding in the back of my mother's, (yes, my mother's garage) a fine MZ ES150/1 of 1975 vintage. You may know the one, it’s the one that looks like it was made from left over parts from the construction of Panzer tanks and used for ploughing fields. When you turn the handlebars the headlight refuses to follow the direction of the front wheel. (Some lunatic in East Germany thought that it was a good idea on a dark night to see what you are about to hit after you’ve hit it! This fine motorcycle boasts 11.5bhp and a scintillating top speed of 62.5mph (Providing the rider follows the precise instructions in the owner’s manual and ‘wears a racing suit and adopts a totally prone position’; [and removes the plough!])
It also has the peculiar property of being the worlds first petrol driven spirit level. Without a single theodolite in sight my beloved MZ will instantly tell the rider it is either travelling up or downhill. Roughly, each degree of incline removes or adds 2mph. So, my quick witted reader, 10 degree incline wipes 20mph off the speedo. Overtaking is an activity which will have to wait until the government allow mobility scooters onto the public highway.
Now the younger members of BCF will think that this bike is quite clearly faulty while the older members will know that back in the day; this passed for 'cutting edge' East German technology. West Germany produces the M3, East Germany produced the MZ. 20mm away on a keyboard but 200 years away in technology. I very nearly considered spending hundreds of my hard earned pounds and thousands of my precious hours bringing the piece of crap back to its former glory. But then the effects of the alcohol began to fade and I realsied that all this would achieve is transforming rusty crap into shiny crap.
Anyway, I have decided that I need a more modern motorcycle.
I want, I think, a four cylinder, fuel injection ‘naked’ style bike with an ‘upright’ riding position and preferably ABS. ( I’m too old to be looking at the horizon flying toward me through my eyebrows.) A friend of mine who owns a fine Triumph Daytona 600, suggested a Honda Hornet (2007 onward) Hmmm?
I am not too interested in top speed but I want acceleration that rips your arms off! I want low down and mid range power and lots of it. I want the turning of my right wrist to have a direct positive effect on the width of my smile. I want to get off the bike and be able to do an impression of the joker with minimal makeup. I want arms like Stretch Armstrong! Twist the throttle and have my hands on the grips and my arse hovering above the on the highway 50m behind like Wile E. Coyote!!
All suggestions gratefully received.
(Oh, and the guy who suggested an MZ250, that’s so not funny!)
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Joined: 27 May 2004 Karma :    
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 Posted: 20:51 - 22 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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Those are the style of bikes I'm looking at as my next bike...the ones I have narrowed it down to are: Hornet 600/900, Fazer 1000, KTM 990, XT660, Triumph Tiger (newer version), TDM 850/900, or the Triumph Street Triple.
Best advice is, go back through all the Which Bike? threads, there have been LOADS over the years believe me (use the search button at the top of the page under the 'we buy any bike' ad), list the bikes you think you like the idea of, google search under image...and then pick your favourites that way.
Then toddle off down the bike shop and do some test riding.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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 Willson Traffic Copper

Joined: 26 Jun 2010 Karma :  
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 Posted: 22:13 - 22 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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Can I suggest a Triumph Daytona 600, moderately/heavily thrashed, redlined alot in first 3 gears, forks slammed down a few times from wheelies that were really naff and ridden by the worlds unluckiest rider?
If not.. shame
I still think a Suzuki Gladius, Hornet 600/900, Honda CB1000, Triumph Speed Four or a Kawasaki Z750...
I think you will enjoy any bike over 600cc anyway, purely down to the...well current insane amount of bhp you are making use of
The CB1000/R may be a bit of a jump...maybe too far in your head/wrist but you might always feel you want to upgrade later on after your "weekend blasts" become "samey"
Still.. you could just remove the Daytona fairings  |
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 Posted: 07:46 - 23 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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If your last bike was a 1975 MZ then anything 600cc wise will feel insanely fast. Test ride a 600 hornet/fazer/street triple etc and if that doesnt make you grin get some anti-depressants and buy a naked thou . |
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 Irezumi aka Reuben Carrot Top
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 Posted: 08:27 - 23 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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I have recently ridden most of the bikes within this category of bike. None imo have what I'd call acceleration that rips your arms off compared to larger bikes. The Triumph Street Triple has the most tractable engine from any revs. I was able to go through town (down to 20mph) using 5th & 6th gear only. You'd struggle to do this on any 4-cylinder bike, bar perhaps the Z750. Although it doesnt have ABS I'd say the Street Triple is the best bike overall by a noticeable margin from an average rider (me). It's also the most enjoyable. Hence why I bought one. See below for a long winded review I did.
| previously typed by me wrote: | Recently got a (new) bike in this sort of area after having done a fair bit of research and had test rides. My requirements are slightly different from yours as I use the bike mainly to commute and also for fun as it's my only form of transport. Coming from a DRZ400SM, and prior to that a ZX6R and Triumph Sprint.
Most of these bikes are new so it may be slightly out of your price range but hopefully gives a good idea.
I found all the four cylinder bikes relatively gutless and boring for what I wanted. I tried the GSR, XJ6 diversion, Z750 and Hornet. I am very light so all were reasonably well sprung in terms of suspension but I found them all a bit gutless bar the Z750, which I found a bit too bulky as I'm only a little bloke. The Hornet was the best, but like all Honda's I ride totally uninvolving for me. I had a go on the ER6f and found it a bit too bouncy suspension wise. I also found the engine a bit too gutless. Too much of an entry level/hack bike for my needs. New the prices have also gone up lately for Jap bikes, though you can easily haggle down, but the poor quality compared to the European bikes still shows.
I've not ridden any of the 690 SM's but if it's only a toy that you intend to use on very twisty roads then single cylinder bikes are great fun. Even the older KTM's lack a bit of oomph once the road opens up. On anything other than twisty roads and city centres theyre a chore to ride, and constant fuel stops can become annoying (80 miles or less are possible!). Good toy in specific environments.
After this I narrowed it down to the Europeans. Aprilia Shiver (same engine as Dorsduro), Monster 696 and the Street Triple.
The Shiver is a very good bike. Slightly larger physically so good if your tall. I was on tiptoes though I'm only 5"7. The De-cat toasted my left leg which was annoying and from idle to about 3000rpm the engine was very 'fluffy' and useless, not what I expected from a twin. Over that it was fine, very good bike. Stable handling and a bit slower to turn than I thought it would be. Front brakes were extremely good, rear was uselss. The different fuel maps were interesting too, although the 'sport' mode with the most power/torque wouldnt comfortably sit on a constant throttle which was annoying. Sounded amazing too.
The Monster was much better for my physically, so maybe not good if larger. It's a very very small bike. The engine was a lot better than expected but again there was a bit of a flat area until 3000rpm, it also seemed to be a bit lacking in town/city stuff probably due to being air cooled. Best quality of all the bikes I rode, and the brakes were exceptional. The handling was very stable like all Ducati's I've ridden but a bit more flickable probably due to it's physical size.
Lastly was the Street Triple. Having ridden a few Triumphs (mainly 955 engines) I dont like triple engines, I find them very boring and bland. The 675 engine though has a very flat torque curve and pulls hard and cleanly from low revs in any gear, very flexible. However it also has a peaky-ish bit at the top to keep it interesting. Probably my favourite engine I've ever had the pleausre to ride which I wasnt expecting. Handling was very flickable without being unstable, steering lock is a bit crap and could see it being an issue during filtering but no worse than the Ducati. On the standard bike I test rode the brakes were more than good enough but needed re-bleeding to get back to optimum it appeared. Strret Triple R has adjustable suspension (though I found the standard fine if a little harsh) and better radial brakes off the Daytona which are supposedly superior. Certainly a very fun and entertaining bike.
In the end I got a new Street Triple. Very very fun bike with more than enough power. At least 10hp more than anything else in the group it seemed like. Also very tractable as well though so good for commuting. Good comfy seating position (if you like naked bikes) and very easily useable and intuative.
Edit: If youve read this far well done for staying awake. I'd suggest getting some test rides! |
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One word: Triumph Street Tripple. ____________________ Yamaha SZR660 Caution to the wind, the throttle pinned! |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 162 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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