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PostPosted: 12:48 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: you're gonna get nicked. ... Reply with quote

lots of bikes out. ... gotta be prime for nicking. ...

was sat in a layby down the A32 (popular bike route round here) for a bit yesterday, loads of bikes flashed past. ... most with loud cans that you could hear a long time in advance. ... and it struck me that if I was the fuzz, I would have prime pickings spot. ... what surprised me more was that these riders clearly hadn't considered the same. .... oblivious or don't care / happy to risk. ..

I would never ride down there like that myself as it is such an obvious nicking point Confused


do you ride fast down known popular biking routes or leave it for elsewhere, where there is less chance of getting your collar felt? Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trick is if you are going to ride down these roads don't do it on the same day as everybody else. I ride on lots of popular biking roads but rarely on a sunday or wednesday night. If i do then it's to the letter of the law.
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most bikers haven't got the foresight to think about it. They are weekend warriors, so excited by a little sunlight and so het up after a whole week queued in traffic in their cars, that come the weekend they basically go bonkers, doing silly speeds with loud exhausts, illegal plates, etc, and then think it's just "bad luck" when they get shafted.

If you get caught speeding, chances are, you're crap at speeding. it's perfectly possible to smash every speed limit there is, year after year, and never get busted. All it takes is common sense and good forward and rear observation - something weekend warriors haven't got. Hence the op's point: you see these goons speeding down roads police are known to hide, and you think to yourself, "what a twat.."
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i`m in both camps on this one.... today i`ve been out on the 125, and i` would be hard pressed to get a speeding ticket on that Smile

but when i take the ZX out, i try to avoid known biker routes because of the police Evil or Very Mad .

sad but true that the police dictate someones riding habits Sad , but then again that`s what they want, cos they need to be in control Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rapdude wrote:
I would agree, although it's getting harder and harder bercause of the many different unmaked cars, if you have a car trying to keep up with you, you need to determine if they are chaving laughing or the old bill .... Question


surely it is just safer to presume it is the filth? if a car is trying to keep up, slow down and turn off ... if they cane it past, then it is prolly chavs (and you have had a look) ... it is then down to you if you can be arsed to chase! Wink
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the police were at the serious accident further up the Road, so I was quite happy being a bit enthusiastic keeping up with the 'Repsol Rep' CBR1000 that came past me Smile.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitting loud cans, getting a small plate, getting a tinted visor then heading off to somewhere like devils bridge and riding like a loon isnt my idea of fun but its what people do then complain about the police presence. I prefer to ride where there arent loads of other bikes.

Some of the comments on this thread already are a bit Laughing , and I hope that none of you ever get a speeding ticket otherwise you may be branded a 'twat' by the holier than thou brigade!

Ive been riding for 8 years, commuting, touring and weekend warrior stuff. Some people would obviously use this presumed exeprience as a higher status to look down on others. Personally I don't think it counts for shit.

For the record, this last twelve months Ive been riding for fun only, with the odd commute. I currently have a small plate and very loud exhausts. I ride where I want and when I want, Im perfectly willing to accept anything that comes my way. If I wanted to go slow everywhere I would seriously give it up. Having said that 8 years and a clean licence means this particular 'weekend warrior' (even though I obviously havent got the common sense or good forward/rear observation) is doing something right.

Have to leave it there, far too many high horses round this way for a bike forum Wink
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I am trying to point out here is why go so fast down a popular route, gotta be asking for trouble hasn't it?!? Confused ... presuming they do it every weekend during the summer ... how long do they get away with it for?!!? ... is part of the buzz the knowledge that they are running a high ticket risk route!!?!? Pale

Personally I tend to get my thrills on 'minor' roads, now this is probably a bit more dodgy from a tractor, mud, horse point of view, but must be less risky from a plod point of view!?!? Thinking
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with the first 4 up the top of this thread Laughing

Able to and have often done silly speeds in the cage when trying to get to or back from somewhere in a very restricted time ... 10+ year clean license all the same. It's just a matter of being wary and a mind towards your own (license's) preservation.

I know that high speed can be a thrill also, but stonking it just for the sake of it seems just dumb sometimes. It's a tool I use either for getting there, or for testing purposes. Can get my kicks as well when cruising. Others can't, that's their choice, and you've just got to accept the consequences of that. (Let 'em get on with it Smile )

It's a very odd thing being on the learner bike, it occupies much the same kind of speed niche as my first car. In the same way I enjoy chucking it around B- and unclassified roads where it's at home.
It's mainly an economy and traffic cutting measure for me, but still, wierdly, almost all other riders who I've chatted with are eager to ask what fire spitting monster I'm going to move up to once I've passed. Assuming the only reason I want could possibly want to be on 2 wheels is to spend more than I can afford on a supersport, crank it up to 150+ every day (or as one claimed, 250 Rolling Eyes) and to go out on all the high-death, clogged up well known routes that are infested with swarms of laser gun-waving plod. Ugh. Because the only reason I learnt to drive was to buy a Lambourghini. Come down off your cloud.

Try exploring instead. There's lots of neat back routes that are both unobserved and will give you more of a high from conquering them rather than just cracking open the throttle (which anyone can do) on a dead straight easy-target bit of road.

...... now watch that tune change once I finally move up to something that can reliably beat 70. There is something addictive about that kick in the rear from a fast machine. Very Happy


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PostPosted: 16:31 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasnt really aimed at you blue, I think you made a valid point to be fair.

To the above, you think that speeding in the car while you are in a rush is better than caning it 'just for the sake of it' is 'dumb'? Lets see, im out on a ride, making adequate progress at speed with nothing on my mind but observations and the road ahead vs someone with the distraction of being late?

As for opening the throttle on a straight road I agree you may take a different view on a bike with more power! Exploration is fun too, no reason why you shojldnt enjoy the ride there though!

Anyway, heading off topic. Back to people being caught speeding being stupid twats....
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

tahrey wrote:

Try exploring instead. There's lots of neat back routes that are both unobserved and will give you more of a high from conquering them rather than just cracking open the throttle (which anyone can do) on a dead straight easy-target bit of road.



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PostPosted: 16:41 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:

Anyway, heading off topic. Back to people being caught speeding being stupid twats....


Getting caught speeding (in general) does not necessarily mean you are a tw4t ... riding like a knob on a biker route on a sunny weekend without considering/caring the plod are very possibly about does!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
tahrey wrote:

Try exploring instead. There's lots of neat back routes that are both unobserved and will give you more of a high from conquering them rather than just cracking open the throttle (which anyone can do) on a dead straight easy-target bit of road.



Ah, the strained warblings of the inexperienced Razz


Why say-the that?!!? Thinking
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
What I am trying to point out here is why go so fast down a popular route, gotta be asking for trouble hasn't it?!? Confused

Yea, I generally try and avoid it.
Unfortunate that when I got done by the undercover bike the other week, I hadn't considered it was May Day and I was around South Coast bike-frequented roads - I was just trying to get to my destination Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I slow down to the speed limit(ish) on straights generally, then just accelerate for the twisty bits. The cops and speed traps are normally on the straight bits anyway and I get zero thrill from doing high speeds in a straight line. I also observe the speed limit in villages as I'm not a total cunt and again there's no fun to be had flying past schools at 60.

I think this is how I have managed to not get any (more) points for the last 11 years despite riding and driving like a lunatic at every given opportunity, often on very well known biker routes.


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PostPosted: 16:51 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
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What I am trying to point out here is why go so fast down a popular route, gotta be asking for trouble hasn't it?!? Confused

Yea, I generally try and avoid it.
Unfortunate that when I got done by the undercover bike the other week, I hadn't considered it was May Day and I was around South Coast bike-frequented roads - I was just trying to get to my destination Rolling Eyes.


Ah, good point I should have said KNOWN biker route Wink

I would say that 99% of bikers down that route (A32&A272) at a weekend are doing it coz they know it is a biker route, not simply A->B ...
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: you're gonna get nicked. ... Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
lots of bikes out. ... gotta be prime for nicking. ...

was sat in a layby down the A32 (popular bike route round here) for a bit yesterday, loads of bikes flashed past. ... most with loud cans that you could hear a long time in advance. ... and it struck me that if I was the fuzz, I would have prime pickings spot. ... what surprised me more was that these riders clearly hadn't considered the same. .... oblivious or don't care / happy to risk. ..

I would never ride down there like that myself as it is such an obvious nicking point Confused


do you ride fast down known popular biking routes or leave it for elsewhere, where there is less chance of getting your collar felt? Thinking

Yes, whilst in a wheelie like posistion...
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today, going up tern hill. About 80 bikers went past, I tagged on and then a police bike came wizzing up and sat in the middle!
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: you're gonna get nicked. ... Reply with quote

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Yes, whilst in a wheelie like posistion...
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fitting loud cans, getting a small plate, getting a tinted visor then heading off to somewhere like devils bridge and riding like a loon isnt my idea of fun but its what people do then complain about the police presence. I prefer to ride where there arent loads of other bikes.

Some of the comments on this thread already are a bit Laughing , and I hope that none of you ever get a speeding ticket otherwise you may be branded a 'twat' by the holier than thou brigade!

Ive been riding for 8 years, commuting, touring and weekend warrior stuff. Some people would obviously use this presumed exeprience as a higher status to look down on others. Personally I don't think it counts for shit.

For the record, this last twelve months Ive been riding for fun only, with the odd commute. I currently have a small plate and very loud exhausts. I ride where I want and when I want, Im perfectly willing to accept anything that comes my way. If I wanted to go slow everywhere I would seriously give it up. Having said that 8 years and a clean licence means this particular 'weekend warrior' (even though I obviously havent got the common sense or good forward/rear observation) is doing something right.

Have to leave it there, far too many high horses round this way for a bike forum Wink


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PostPosted: 18:19 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: you're gonna get nicked. ... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:26 - 25 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, I am a bit inexperienced on the bike (only a year, only 125s plus time on 500s during DAS), hence my final line there. But I'm not inexperienced on the road in general. Do also have trouble expressing what I'm actually meaning at times too, so might have scrambled that a bit. Confused T0MMY and Villers probably put it more succinctly TBH.

Basically it does confuse me same as the OP about those who charge about everywhere then get nabbed.

Maybe only going quick when the situation demands it isn't any better than continually going fast, but it is lowering both the accident and endorsement risk. Being late did maybe use to be a distraction as I'd take unneccessary risks for little gain (plenty of undertaking and cutting in to tiny spaces like a proper dick), but I've recognised that now (partly thanks to getting pulled by a squad car right behind me when flashing someone out of the way) and choose the moments more carefully. At least there's a point to it. Observe properly, find the gap, blat through. Have been out on a bigger bike, the acceleration and being able to keep up to 70"ish" is very pleasing and would probably make use of the top end in the same circumstances as the car, but don't feel a need to push it continually. (Yet? Smile ) ... Being able to cruise part throttle 60 to 80 would do, with enough punch to overtake the dawdlers without stress Wink

The observation - and self control, in a way - is key.
But, meh Confused
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