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root
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: riding a 500cc tomorrow Reply with quote

so I've done 125's and rode in a straight line on a yamaha thunderace 1000.

But tomorrow I'm going to see my friend who's a bike instructor, he's letting me have a go on his 500cc so I can decide if I wanna do my DAS or mod2 and wait 2 years.

what are 500cc bikes like? heavy obviously, any tips or anything to know? thanks

I'm quite excited Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a sort of DAS route albeit not officially DAS more of a CBT and practice on a 125 and then a couple of lessons on the GS500 before my test.

Ironically I found the GS500 much easier and more responsive than the CG125. I really struggled to get to 60mph on the dual carriageway as I couldn't get used to the feeling of hanging onto the bike for dear life.............now it's a rather different story, I look at the speedo and think $hit, slow down else you'll lose your licence!! Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 18:01 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

tar very much, he said I'm a natural rider, I'm more excited than nervous..just worried about the size/weight of the machine.

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PostPosted: 18:20 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: riding a 500cc tomorrow Reply with quote

root wrote:


what are 500cc bikes like? heavy obviously, any tips or anything to know?


theys good fun!

you'll enjoy the difference in power from the 125 to the 500.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: riding a 500cc tomorrow Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
root wrote:


what are 500cc bikes like? heavy obviously, any tips or anything to know?


theys good fun!

you'll enjoy the difference in power from the 125 to the 500.

it's going to be very scary for me. I don't want to accidentally flip it lol
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be relatively heavy in comparison to a little 125 but the weight will be down low and after five mins wont be a problem! They are easier to ride since you dont need to slip the clutch as muchmand the power wont be so narrow. Dont worry about flipping it, unless you give it full throttle and dump the clutch in first gear you should be just fine!

Remember that its natural to be nervous of a bigger bike but its not exactly a 180bhp litre bike!

Best of luck!!
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: riding a 500cc tomorrow Reply with quote

just take it easier than you would on the 125

yes the first thing you will notice is the weight. its not so much that its a heavier machine. you will feel that its sturdier than the little 125cc your on at the moment. the weight is easy to get used to and you might even find it reassuring.

as for flipping it, just take it easy, gentle twist of the throttle and gently release the clutch and you will be fine.

the chances are the bike will be a kwak ER5 or the suzuki GS500, both of which are great bikes for beginers.

you'll be fine on it.

when it comes to chosing the DAS or not then i would go for the DAS. if your going to pay for lessons then you might as well go DAS as it will cost the same.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: riding a 500cc tomorrow Reply with quote

root wrote:
it's going to be very scary for me. I don't want to accidentally flip it lol


Haha! I know exactly what you mean, as I worried a bit about the extra cc too. I figured that it didn't matter how much noise the engine made revving and how much I twisted the throttle, as long as I didn't let the clutch out at the same time!! Shocked

I was much, much more careful with my left hand than my right, which is why I'm a fan of ear plugs!! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a few days on a 500 last week (part of my DAS y'see) and I found them a lot easier to get on with than my 125. Because you have more power there you can get through turns better (slow in, power out) and they are way more responsive. It made me feel like I was more in control of what was going on and therefore a lot more confident when I was riding.

Of course the slow speed manouvers required for Mod 1 were a little harder for me. Couldnt get my head round "if you feel the bike tipping over, give it some gas and it will right itself naturally" and put a foot down on the figure of eight Sad I was so used to a lighter bike and manhandling it round!

And dont worry about flipping it, take some time to get used to the throttle and you will soon learn not to pin it and dump the clutch at the same time. Have fun!
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite natural when it comes to balancing the 125 at low speeds etc, also picked it all up very easy, all the gears, everything. My friend (the instructor) thinks I will pass my practical, no problem.

I can't wait to get some power out of a proper bike but obviously I will be nervous. Looks like it will be light rain tomorrow at 1pm where I am..hopefully clear & dry by 3pm Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can still do the DAS but don't have to buy a 1000cc or anything like that Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 03 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did it go then?
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 500 is just like riding a CG but a bit heavier and as a result more stable feeling. They're not powerful really and are very easy to manage. Most important thing is slow speed stability and steering lock.

Personally i find a 500 easier to ride than a 125, but then i spose it's more like what i'm used to.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigger heavier bikes feel a lot more stable and planted to the road.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im good at low speed control on 125's..

erm, it hasn't gone yet tbh, he accidentally booked me in for today, rather than tuesday! so Im riding it today at 3pm instead Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

literally just got home, IT WAS AWESOME.

I love the power delivery, it's all there when you want it. It's amazing, I need to get through my test asap, I love bikes!!

I rode an er-5, pretty comfortable, easy to get used to, nice acceleration Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

root wrote:
literally just got home, IT WAS AWESOME.

I love the power delivery, it's all there when you want it. It's amazing, I need to get through my test asap, I love bikes!!

I rode an er-5, pretty comfortable, easy to get used to, nice acceleration Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


well done. now you gotta get that pass Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, I intend to. Riding that 500cc was SOOO fun. I was nervous but I picked the handling up after about 20 mins. Then I was swaying the bike whichever way and very used to it.

The power delivery was awesome compared to a CG 125. I did feel the front end want to pull up a couple of times when I got too excited but it never left the ground.

All in all, I had an awesome time and I really wanna do my DAS. Fuck the "wait 2 years" scheme. DAS is where it's at Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait till the DAS course and they teach you counter steering and then they take you out on the roads and you practice it. after a day out on the bigger bike its horrible getting back onto the 125 to go home.

best thing i ever done bike wise was the DAS course. i cant imagine what it would be like having to wait 2 years to be able to ride without restrictions
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

well my friend is the instructor, so on the 18th Im off out again, this time on the roads. Can't wait to open that beauty up...

Very Happy SOOO doing my DAS asap
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Front end weight feels a lot more exaggerated then it actually is. Making a 500 wheelie would require a fair bit of clutch at low speeds. But compared to a 125 it will obviously feel like a rocket ship. A heavy rockets ship, but the extra power somehow make it feel lighter...
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