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Scythe
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Touring with A2 (33bhp restricted) licence? Reply with quote

Hi, just wondering if its possible to ride abroad (e.g. france) with an A2 licence? Won't be doing it soon, just wondering if it's legal or not.

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Mord
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: Touring with A2 (33bhp restricted) licence? Reply with quote

Good question.. I was wondering whether that =<25kW on the licence apply only in the UK. It's not one of those international codes which mean something after all. And the licence clearly says it's "A" not "A2" like restricted licences on the continent.

I want to go abroad next year and I'm thinking maybe it would better to ask DVLA to remove =<25kW note from my licence.. just for peace in mind. Police abroad probably don't know that 25kW applies for only 2 years.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A full license is a full license regardless of restriction..

Your insurance covers you abroad, your license is a full uk valid license, providing your riding a legal bike your license covers (a 33bhp one) then yes its totally legal.. i did it on a CB750..

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PostPosted: 15:14 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Think the licence groups are standard through Europe so think you are fine as long as the bike is restricted.

However some countries might well be rather stricter on requiring proof of restriction (ie, except Germany to be fairly strict).

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:12 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be fare i do know someone who rode to france on a C90 on just his CBT. took his L's off and just went for it illegal i think but he got away with it!
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 29 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's basically fine, but I seem to remember in France you're not supposed to go over 110kph if you're restricted.

As Keith says you might want to take some proof of restriction just in case. My girlfriend rode all over europe with me when she was restricted and never had any trouble.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 29 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you ride abroad once you have an A2? Thinking of going next summer, and all of us will be in the 1st year of our restriction.
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 30 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germany certainly has the same restriction.

I suspect it's a Europewide thing. They standardised all the groups years ago, hence the trailer towing thingy with cars etc., so you shouldn't have any problem.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 30 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this as an example how it is in France..
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In France, as in the rest of Europe, you need to have a motorcycle license (type A) to be able to ride a motorcycle with more than 125 cc (if you have had a car license for more than 2 years, you are allowed to ride a 125 cc motorcycle with less than 15 hp).

If you're between 18 and 21 years old, you can get the "Progressive" A, meaning your motorcycle is not allowed to have more than 34 hp, and the weight/power ration may not exceed 0.16 kW/kg.

After two years riding with a "Progressive" A license, or if you are older than 21 years, you can get the "Direct" A license, that allows you to ride any motorcycle (in France all motorcycles are restricted to 100 hp maximum).



Especially that bold part worries me.. Fair enough when you are on restricted A2 licence and ride 33bhp vehicle..

But my bike will be full power and my licence still says =<25kW, for French Police it may look like I ride over 100bhp bike on 25kW licence. DVLA says there is no need to change the licence to the one with restriction removed, that's ok here in England where our Police can contact DVLA when in doubt. But imagine situation that you have to explain that to French Police and ask them to contact DVLA haha.. In their country you pass A2 licence,then wait 2 years then pass full A. In the UK you get A automatically after 2 years which then may not know. And big chance they don't.

It looks to me that riding a full power bike on full licence (however with 25kW printed on) is a big NO NO. I sense a trouble here if stopped Embarassed
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looks to me that riding a full power bike on full licence (however with 25kW printed on) is a big NO NO. I sense a trouble here if stopped Embarassed



Totally agree, why they couldn't have just put 2 columns on the license ie

09/08/2010 - 08/08/2012 <=25KW
09/08/2012 - 08/08/2042 <=25KW & >= 25KW

I've never been abroad on the bike so not much of an issue for me. But I'd just claim I'd lost my license and get one resent even if it did cost £20. By saying I'd lost my license, hopefully it would stop the DVLA fecking up and removing my bike entitlement and giving me bus entitlement.
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