Just got back from court

Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

For the speeding, 61 in a 30.

I was debating whether to turn up at all listening to different people telling me don't bother etc. I decided to go, suited and booted, arrived at 9am even though the court didn't start until 10am.

The magistrates saw me as well waiting at about 9.10am. I went in and the clerk said, "As you've already pleaded guilty by post, today is a chance for you to explain yourself and any mitigating circumstances, can you tell the magistrates now.."

I'd already sent this in but I basically recited this out loud to them:-

t121anf · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Karma :

did you have business insurance for doing the deliveries, surprised they didn't do you for no insurance too (if you didn't that is)

DrDonnyBrago · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Karma :

Nice to see you didn't get completely dry fisted Thumbs Up

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The Artist · Super Spammer Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Karma :

Pretty good result.

Like you say, could have been a lot worse.

Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

I was expecting to get spanked. I mentioned about having my license revoked and they asked me what would be better. I told them it could take a few months to re-take my tests with all the waiting around etc and a short ban would be better.

One of G's comments was playing on my mind from a topic I made a while back about this, he said he had travelled miles, taken the day off work, turned up suited and got spanked worse than he thought and wondered whether it was because he actually did turn up, like wasting their time.

Glad I did go though, also looking around the waiting areas, all the other young lads were wearing trackys and hoodys, so it must of been a refreshing change.

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FreshAL · Sir Crashalot Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Karma :

good work. Even I feel sorry for you reading that statement.

I think you pitched it perfectly

Billy Balthorpe · Trackday Trickster Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Karma :

Well written, if a bit creepy, but hey it worked!

I sepnt £60 on a solicitor in 1999 and was banned for 28 days with a £300 fine for 127 in a 70.

If its anything other than a straight 3 points for speeding ALWAYS turn up and tell them what they want to hear in a well written statement. Much like Jay did here.
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Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

What do you mean creepy?

Marmalade · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Karma :

Mate did the same, 120 on the motorway, turned up pleaded guilty and gave a sob story, one leg, 2 kids, own business etc and got out with £300 fine and 14 day ban.

Did you forget to answer the one about having insurance to cover you for business use?
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Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

I seeee, too right I was arse licking, I would of got on all fours and barked like a dog if they had asked me to. Rather not get banned for months and a hefty fine Cool

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Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

People kept telling me to grow my hair, I freshly bic'd my head in the morning, turned up with a shiney skin head bonce and a suit.

Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

They probably thought you were Old Bill then!
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TheDonUK · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Karma :

I had almost exactly the same,

66 in a 40, turned up to court, in a suit (although i rode in so looked a bit scruffy), just looked as if held some respect for authority, in the end they gave me a 30 day disqualification, slightly less of a fine than you (including "victim surcharge" ) but no points.

As i had kind of resigned myself to possibly 6 points, putting me on 9, after that bad month of not legally being allowed on the bike its worked out fine, as now i only have 3 from an old gatso, that runs out in about a year or so..

Use the month to give the bike a clean, sort out any odd jobs you been meaning to do, and dont get caught next time Razz

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Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

I forgot about this, because I'm in my 2 years probation period, I'm sure I read somewhere that if you're banned you're no longer in the 2 year thingy whe it's up? or is that license revoked?

DynaMight · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Karma :

Chances are they'd already decided anyway. I got caught for 69MPH in a 40, pleaded guilty by post, then a few days before the court date they sent a letter saying its been cancelled as they are looking to ban me. At that stage I lost all respect for the legal system.

Got a new date that I had to turn up for, explained the situation (basically being caught less than 20mitres outside of a 70 zone which joins a 40zone on a slight corner) but they didnt care and gave me 6pts and £250 fine. Pointless evening mentioning it.

They were more concerned with getting their money tbh, had loads of graphs on the waiting area about how good they are at collecting money from 'criminals' like myself. I was getting close to telling them to do what they have to to get the cash because I dont have it when good old Mumsie stepped up and paid it and thankfully she has a better repayment scheme Smile

Btw, I turned up in a t-shirt and jeans. If how you dress makes a difference then it just shows how screwed up the justice system is.
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Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

I agree with that last comment but it applies to all kinds of things. Like if you go for a job interview, they say don't shave your head, why not? Surely they're capable of looking past a shaved head?

Like my mate, he went for an interview with a shaved head and the guy mentioned it afterwards, said it's not a good thing and he shouldn't of done it. Yet, once they say hello and get talking to the guy, they realise he has every qualification needed, plus more and two PHDs.

That's the kind of thing that should matter, not physical appearance, it's bullshit and insane but what can you do apart from try and conform.

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That aside, I just phoned my insurance company and told them I have been banned, they phoned the broker or whatever it is and asked them and they said they will no longer cover me because of this. That's not a problem but they're saying I have to pay a cancellation fee of £75. Technically, I didn't cancel the policy, they've decided they don't want to insure me, you think there is any way around this?

https://www.expressinsurance.co.uk/footer/terms-and-conditions

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loply · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Karma :

I got caught doing 60 in a 30 and got £250 fine and 6 points, no ban. I'm self employed so that might've been a factor.
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